Yes, "the order in which they appear" is circular. Like I said, I'm
still looking for the right words...
I can't beat Ken's phrasing for accurate brevity, but it's longer than
you want for the first-line description for a newcomer; and it requires
that you know what 'item' means.
"Row-major order" would be perfect if everyone knew the term, but I
think it's passe. Marshall's "reading order", supplemented by a note
giving Ken's description, and an example, is the best I've heard yet.
Other ideas"?
Henry Rich
On 3/10/2016 7:35 PM, Roger Hui wrote:
"in the order in which they appear in y"?
Isn't that kind of circular? What is the order in which they appear?
Row-major order, index order, "normal order", etc.
The way Ken has it seems pretty good: "ordered by items, by items within
items, etc."
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote:
You're right...
Now, how would you describe the order? Would 'index order" be enough?
The Dictionary says "normal order" and then goes on to define it. I have
looked for years for the right words. It has to be short and intuitive -
not a mathematical definition.
How about "in the order in which they appear in y"?
Henry Rich
On 3/10/2016 6:30 PM, Nicholas Spies wrote:
This is perhaps a quibble, but...
Looking at the NuVoc definition of , y Ravel
The following statement and the example directly below it...
--------
Produces a list <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#List>
containing all the atoms
<http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#Atom> in y, in order.
An atom <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#Atom> is converted
to a 1-atom list <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#List>, a
list <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#List> is left
unchanged, and any noun <
http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#Noun>
of higher rank <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#Rank> is
flattened into a list <http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Vocabulary/AET#List
]z=: 0 10 20 +/ i. NB. sample noun
0 1 2 3 4
10 11 12 13 14
20 21 22 23 24
,z
0 1 2 3 4 10 11 12 13 14 20 21 22 23 24
-------------------
...and also...
,'ace',.'bdf'
abcdef
...give the first impression that Ravel puts the items into lexical order,
which is misleading, as shown by the example 2 under Common Uses:
]a =: 4 4 ?@$ 100
89 91 1 24
88 43 43 32
85 84 27 31
10 11 49 90
+/ 50 < , a
6
,a
89 91 1 24 88 43 43 32 85 84 27 31 10 11 49 90
Since NuVoc is targeting new users, the 'in order' statement should. IMHO,
specify explicitly the order as being <whatever description is
appropriate>.
Nick
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Roger Hui <[email protected]>
wrote:
,'ace',.'bdf'
abcdef
'ace',@,.'bdf'
abcdef
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Roger Hui <[email protected]>
wrote:
,|:'ace',:'bdf'
abcdef
'ace'([: , |:@,:)'bdf'
abcdef
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Kip Murray <[email protected]>
wrote:
A quickie -- how do you interweave two equal-length lists, so that
'ace' itw 'bdf'
abcdef
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