Which gets back to me being baffled by the thinking that @. is not
necessary because we can use a 532 character expression instead.

-- 
Raul

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:21 PM, Jose Mario Quintana
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Right, I did think it was that easy ;)
>
> As the subject of this thread clearly implies we, Dan and I, were talking
> about tacit adverbs.  "The use of illegal steroids is not appreciated in
> this venue! :)"
>
> Incidentally, the size of linear representation of Adv has a lot to do with
> the verbosity of linear representations of words involving atomic
> representations.  Why should one be so concerned about it?
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 10:39 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Explicit is an alternative, also.
>>
>> --
>> Raul
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Jose Mario Quintana
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > "There are always alternatives."  I am really curious, can you produce
>> any
>> > arbitrary tacit adverb where neither  @.  nor  `:6  appear in its code?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I am probably being something horrible, but... I'm kind of baffled by
>> >> the thinking that @. is not necessary because we can use a 532
>> >> character expression instead.
>> >>
>> >> I mean, ok, sure, technically almost nothing is actually "necessary"
>> >> because there are always alternatives. But, taken to its logical
>> >> limit, computers fall in the same bucket, along with chairs, cars, and
>> >> a variety of other such things which begin with the letter 'c'.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Raul
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Jose Mario Quintana
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > I am glad to see you around here Dan.  If you only show around here
>> from
>> >> > time to time, or not ever again, the patrons and instructors can
>> learn a
>> >> > lot from you as your first post shows.  By the way, as long as there
>> are
>> >> > patrons and instructors, it is everybody's Jym.
>> >> >
>> >> > Regarding  @. ,in the context of this Jym, I also avoid it and, as far
>> >> as I
>> >> > can see, it can always be avoided (even from an orthodox standpoint)
>> >> > because Adv's definition [0] does not rely on it and, in principle at
>> >> > least, any tacit adverb can be expressed as v Adv.  I currently use
>> it in
>> >> > one tool, not because it is necessary, but because the context is
>> ideal
>> >> for
>> >> >  @.  and therefore it is very efficient.
>> >> >
>> >> > [0] [Jprogramming] Tacit Toolkit (was dyadic J)
>> >> >
>> >>
>> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2015-December/043678.html
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Dan Bron <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Pepe wrote:
>> >> >> > Instructors (Dan, Thomas et al. are you listening?),
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I always listen when you speak, Sensei. Though in recently years my
>> >> review
>> >> >> of J Forum traffic has been more sporadic.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > a1 =:(`{.)(`{:)(@.1 0 2)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hey, I never thought of doing a1 in that fashion.  Neat approach.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Personally, I keep @. in reserve, as my heavy artillery, for when my
>> >> >> tactical mind, unsubtle as it is, is unavailable to find a way to
>> route
>> >> my
>> >> >> infantry (primitive adverbs and bound primitive conjunctions) around
>> a
>> >> >> wall, and neither can my light cannon (`:6) pierce it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Anyway, to mix metaphors again, for those who are looking for some
>> >> workout
>> >> >> tips to train their tacit muscles (it is unwise to enter Pepe’s Jym
>> >> >> unprepared), here’s a few I offered once, back when I could have
>> been a
>> >> >> contender:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2010-November/021172.html <
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2010-November/021172.html>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Dan
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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