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On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Ron Petersen <[email protected]>
wrote:

> how do i get a copy of JD for my iMac or do i need a other type computer?
>
> On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Scott Locklin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 11/28/2017 3:59 PM, Andrew Dabrowski wrote:
> > > Do you loveJ most because of (pick only one)
> >
> > Background: applied math/numerics guy.
> >
> > I've worked around big data and tsdb problems for a long time, so the
> > legends around Kx systems is what originally brought me to APL land. I
> > even worked on a "more mainstream" aka normie legible one called Kerf
> > (basically a rank-1/rankless APL you can read in plain english). That's
> > what got me here.
> >
> > Jd, is definitely one of the things which keeps me around. Stuff like Jd
> > allows you to bring the calculation to the data. Opposite of spark which
> > has expensive marshall, shuffle, etc, and appears to be written by a
> > tribe of chimpanzees. I have beat spark clusters by factors of 100 on
> > calculations running J/jd in one node in one thread (while spark was
> > also running in all the other available hardware threads on the same
> > node and a dozen more!).
> >
> > Mental clarity: when I can express an algorithm in J, I fully understand
> > that algorithm in a way that wouldn't happen with C++ or python or
> > something. I have been using stuff like wavelets and neural nets for
> > decades, but only really understood them when I expressed them as J
> > verbs. This isn't always necessary (libraries are good), but sometimes
> > it is really helpful. Maybe it's the "natural language" properties, or
> > maybe it's because most of the algorithms I am interested in are on
> > matrices and vectors.
> >
> > FFI: it super quick standing up some bag of verbs that allows one to use
> > a C-api. R has some good tools here also, but there is generally a lot
> > of ceremony around the FFI which slows everything down.
> >
> > Speed: it runs fast, and once you get past a certain skill level, dev
> > time is faster than anything else I have used. And I can see lots of
> > potential for improvement as most of the dev time is getting bogged down
> > in some puzzle due to my ignorance, or not noticing some addon package.
> >
> > Bottoms up: one of the strengths of it is it is generally easy to build
> > something big out of lots of little elementary particles. Once you get
> > the pieces, hooking them together (maybe in a namespace) is generally
> > trivial, and the thing "just works." Lisp was like this for me also.
> > Pretty much nothing else is.
> >
> > Community: People who use J tend to be very smart. But, unlike the
> > common lisp community, nobody is a supercilious weirdo about it.
> >
> > Potential: Moore's law has kind of stopped; trend is towards many cores.
> > Theoretically, most J array operations can be naturally parallelized. I
> > think it would make a dandy deep learning metalanguage. Maybe some day
> > I'll have the time to look at Pascal's Arrayfire bindings.
> > https://github.com/Pascal-J/Jfire
> >
> > Downsides: it's a really big language, the documentation can be terse,
> > and, yes, sometimes I can't understand some of the tacit expressions.
> > Also not as many helpful libraries as something like Python or R. I
> > think it's not as natural a fit to text or things that cry out for hash
> > tables or tree-like structures, but it may be just because I don't do
> > much of that sort of thing. If I had to identify one piece of low
> > hanging fruit for my own productivity: more documentation for the addons.
> >
> > Discovering J was sort of like discovering an XB-70 buried under a Mayan
> > temple. Nothing is perfect, but it is a very good tool for me.
> >
> > -SL
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