For me manuals have always been the first resort. When you read it you know more than anyone else about the language, because noone else read it :) The only exception is the J manual, which I find totally unreadable. /Erling

Den 2017-12-13 kl. 23:46, skrev Jose Mario Quintana:
I am surprised how many people have not read the reference manual -
not just in the J community but among technical people in general.

I really don't know what to make of this.
This, to me, is akin to wondering why many people, particularly young
children, can communicate orally fairly well in a language even when they
have not studied its grammar.

On the one hand, I write J tacitly the same way I speak, almost always
without consciously thinking about grammar rules.  On the other hand, I
learned J, a long time ago, by reading the Dictionary (which is not a
recommended way to learn it) and simultaneously experimenting with the
interpreter (which is definitely recommended).

I wish I had the time to read the Dictionary again in its entirety.  Yet, I
still remember fondly the answer of a brilliant boss of mine when I
suggested we should look at one particular reference manual:  "Are you
kidding?  Manuals are the last resort!"

:)


On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 3:46 AM, Erling Hellenäs
<[email protected]> wrote:
I doubt you can find reasonably accurate descriptions of this
functionality
(these four helper programs) anywhere else.
This suggests to me that you have not read

http://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/dictb.htm
nor
http://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/dicta.htm

I am surprised how many people have not read the reference manual -
not just in the J community but among technical people in general.

I really don't know what to make of this.

--
Raul
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