This is getting away from programming, tempting to take it to chat..

But if we're going to talk about technical details, the words we use
will tend to become technical.

That said... "dyadic adverb" sounds like a shortcut - and an ambiguous
one at that. So let's take it back a step:

You combine an adverb with a verb and you get a new verb. Verbs have
valence 1 or 2 (monadic or dyadic). Adverbs always have a valence of
1.

Verb valence depends on context, and the adverb is a part of that
context when we're talking about the verb which is the adverb's
argument. (So you have to read the definition of the adverb to know
some of the details.)

So, here, we had the adverb \ and the verb ] and we combined them and
got the verb ]\

Or, for examples, let's use the verb < instead (since it's a lot
easier to see whether we're using the monadic or dyadic definition of
<).

   3 < i.6
0 0 0 0 1 1
   < i.6
┌───────────┐
│0 1 2 3 4 5│
└───────────┘
   <\ i.6
┌─┬───┬─────┬───────┬─────────┬───────────┐
│0│0 1│0 1 2│0 1 2 3│0 1 2 3 4│0 1 2 3 4 5│
└─┴───┴─────┴───────┴─────────┴───────────┘
   3 <\ i.6
┌─────┬─────┬─────┬─────┐
│0 1 2│1 2 3│2 3 4│3 4 5│
└─────┴─────┴─────┴─────┘

So here we had two verbs (<) and (<\) and we used each of them
monadically and dyadically.... and... hopefully these contrasts make
sense?

(I'm not expecting anyone to memorize my words here - but I am hoping
that the distinctions at least seem sensible.)

Thanks,

-- 
Raul


On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 3:03 PM, robert therriault
<bobtherria...@mac.com> wrote:
> Raul,
>
> I think I would have stopped with this part of your explanation.
>> On Feb 19, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Raul Miller <rauldmil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> But keep in mind that the verb (]\) has two definitions: a monadic
>> definition and a dyadic definition. So you should expect a different
>> result from (3 ]\ i.4) than what you get from (]\ i.4)
>
> When you speak of monadic verbs modified by dyadic adverbs it seems a bit 
> confusing, although I do understand your reasoning.
>
> Cheers, bob
>
>
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