How would that work? Thanks,
— Raul On Monday, July 23, 2018, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not sure this is something to be investigated at this time. Because I > suspect that changing it's rank would not a trivial thing. All I asked is > why the rank was set to 1. It appears pretty useless to me. How useful > would it be if it's rank were infinite? Not much. Simply (<"1) before > passing to ({) gets the same result. > > There are probably plenty of other surprises out there in J. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:02 PM Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hold on thar! I didn't want { y to work differently, I just misread the > > spec. I don't think the current definition has any such restrictions as > > you say. Try it with boxes containing whatever type you like. > > > > Henry Rich > > > > On 7/23/2018 6:42 PM, Don Guinn wrote: > > > It seems like the problem is that Catalogue manadic rank is one. I > really > > > can't see much use in passing it a table or higher rank of boxes. So > what > > > about changing its monadic rank to infinite? It seems to me that that > > would > > > open up interesting possibilities, including as Henry wanted it to work > > in > > > the first place. As of now the things being built restricted to numbers > > or > > > letters. It would not affect anyone using it with a list of boxes as it > > > would still work the same. > > > > > > Is there any way to determine the rational for its monadic rank being > > one? > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 10:12 AM Henry Rich <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> No. But no argument for doing so either. Thus, I will not complicate > > >> the code with the special case. > > >> > > >> Henry Rich > > >> > > >> On 7/23/2018 9:39 AM, Raul Miller wrote: > > >>> Any reason to not make the L.0 case for { use the <“1 implementation? > > >>> > > >>> Thanks, > > >>> > > >>> — > > >>> Raul > > >>> > > >>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018, Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> I'll get the answer to this one right. <"r is heavily optimized. > > Don't > > >>>> try to replace it. > > >>>> > > >>>> Henry Rich > > >>>> > > >>>> On 7/22/2018 7:08 PM, Don Guinn wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Yes. The documentation describes exactly what's happening. The > rank 1 > > >> is > > >>>>> the key making each number an item. In this case it is the > equivalent > > >> to > > >>>>> (<"1) by itself. So, is it a good idea to use ({) in place of (<"1) > > >> when > > >>>>> wanting to box something rank 1? It's shorter and simpler to read. > > But > > >>>>> what > > >>>>> about optimization? It seems to me that it would be a neat example > in > > >>>>> NuVoc. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:42 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Henry Rich wrote: > > >>>>>>> As I read Ye Dic, ({ i. 2 4) should give the same result as > > >>>>>>> ({ <"1 i. 2 3). > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> I never thought I'd have to say this to *you* but: > > >>>>>> note that Catalogue { has rank 1. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Hence there should not be any interaction between the colors in > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> { 'black' ,: 'green' > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> nor in the low / high vectors in > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> { i. 2 4 > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> To me, Catalogue { works just fine as-is. In particular, the DoJ > > >>>>>> also covers the "open argument" case as it stands. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> { 'black' NB. the same as: { 'b' ; 'l' ; 'a' ; > > 'c' > > >> ; 'k' > > >>>>>> +-----+ > > >>>>>> |black| > > >>>>>> +-----+ > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Quote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> {y forms a catalogue from the atoms of its argument, > its > > >> shape > > >>>>>> being the chain of the shapes of the opened items of y > . > > The > > >>>>>> common shape of the boxed results is $y . > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Martin > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> [PS 1: the empty shape of the resulting box > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> $ { 'black' > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> happens to be a concatenation ("chain") of the five empty letter > > >> shapes > > >>>>>> here. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> PS 2: Those reading down to here may also be interested in this > > >>>>>> short exercise: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> What's the result of > > >>>>>> { 'ht' ; 'ao' ; ,. 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