Very interesting mathematical solution Mike.

My initial idea to solve this type of sequence formula was using folds.
The idea is to define a fold function g and fold it on a list of _1 and 1, 
considering an initial value.
The result was:

   g =. ]+2*[
   4 ((g~/\.&.|.)@, ]$(_1 1)"_) 5

4 7 15 29 59 117

I found a bit difficult to work this left foldlist in J. Folds from right seem 
more natural.

This same idea can be implemented in Mathematica as:

In[1]:= FoldList[2 #1 + #2 &, 4, {-1 , 1 , -1 , 1, -1}]
Out[1]= {4, 7, 15, 29, 59, 117}
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From: Programming <[email protected]> on behalf of 'Mike 
Day' via Programming <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Recursive verbs

Yes, this is one way to get high terms without having to evaluate all
their predecessors.
Bear in mind that it's calculating 2^n twice,  and the zero-th term
should surely be the
starting value.  Also, it assumes that starting value is 4;  just change
"4" to "x" in the
13 : ... expression to make it apply for any starting value.

So here's a lovely compact tacit version which addresses those issues,
at the expense
of returning the wrong sign for a negative starting value:

    fa=: (* ([: |  -) 3 %~ [: <: ]) _2&^    NB. with a [: to keep Linda
happy
So,
    4 fa 200x
5892106162282964343653861005250929542581410977203573729438379
cf
   4  (13 :'x p.~(([:(2&^)>:),.~ _1r3 *([:(2&^)>:) + _1&^)y' ) 199x
5892106162282964343653861005250929542581410977203573729438379

If you want a table, the rank needs to be imposed:
    4 5 fl"0/ 3 4 5
29 59 117
37 75 149

A possibly easier way to understand why we need ((_2^n) - 1) % 3 is perhaps
to inspect the general term.
We have
    a1 = 2a0 - 1    NB. using "Mathematical" notationrather than APL/J
    a2 = 2a1 + 1 = 4a0 - 2 + 1
    a3 = 2a2 - 1 = 8a0 - 4 + 2 - 1
...
    an =          (2^n).a0 - (2^[n-1]) + (2^[n-2]) ... + (-1)^n

The absolute sum of all terms except the first is | sum {i=0,n-1} _2^i  | ,
which we know from High School maths is | [(_2^n) - 1]%[_2 -1]  | ,
ie | [(_2^n) - 1]% 3  |

If you want the correct sign for negative starting values, use
    (fa * * [)   NB. ... which isn't quite so neat.

Cheers,

Mike
NB - previous correspondence not trimmed


On 28/11/2018 09:49, Linda Alvord wrote:
> Hi Cliff,
>
> It took a while but I got the explicit verb to work.
>
> f=: 13 :'4 p.~(([:(2&^)>:),.~ _1r3 *([:(2&^)>:) + _1&^)y'
>
>     f i.10
> 7 15 29 59 117 235 469 939 1877 3755
>
>     f
> 4 p.~ ([: 2&^ >:) ,.~ _1r3 * ([: 2&^ >:) + _1&^
>
> Linda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Programming<[email protected]>  On Behalf Of 
> Cliff Reiter
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:38 PM
> To:[email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Recursive verbs
>
> I like that solution. Here is another approach
>
>      4 p.~(2&^@>: ,.~ _1r3 * 2&^@>: + _1&^)i. 10
> 7 15 29 59 117 235 469 939 1877 3755
>
> I found this by composing the linear poly's and noting the constant terms 
> satisfy a two step recursion with eigenvalues 2 and _1.
>
>      lc=.({.@[+{:@[*{.@]),*&{:
>      lc/\.(7$_1 2,:1 2)
> _43 128
> _21  64
> _11  32
>    _5  16
>    _3   8
>    _1   4
>    _1   2
>
>
> On 11/27/2018 11:06 AM, Raul Miller wrote:
>> Sure, ... that's a bit bulkier than I prefer, but it works.
>>
>> Here's another alternative:
>>
>>      evenodd=: , (_1 2,:_1 4)&p.@{:
>>      evenodd evenodd 4
>> 4 7 15 29 59
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
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