For what it's worth, if you think of
   u/ y

as a "right fold"

Then
   u~/ |.y

might be thought of as a "left fold".

Thanks,

-- 
Raul
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 2:26 PM Nimp O <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Very interesting mathematical solution Mike.
>
> My initial idea to solve this type of sequence formula was using folds.
> The idea is to define a fold function g and fold it on a list of _1 and 1, 
> considering an initial value.
> The result was:
>
>    g =. ]+2*[
>    4 ((g~/\.&.|.)@, ]$(_1 1)"_) 5
>
> 4 7 15 29 59 117
>
> I found a bit difficult to work this left foldlist in J. Folds from right 
> seem more natural.
>
> This same idea can be implemented in Mathematica as:
>
> In[1]:= FoldList[2 #1 + #2 &, 4, {-1 , 1 , -1 , 1, -1}]
> Out[1]= {4, 7, 15, 29, 59, 117}
> ________________________________
> From: Programming <[email protected]> on behalf of 
> 'Mike Day' via Programming <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:08 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Recursive verbs
>
> Yes, this is one way to get high terms without having to evaluate all
> their predecessors.
> Bear in mind that it's calculating 2^n twice,  and the zero-th term
> should surely be the
> starting value.  Also, it assumes that starting value is 4;  just change
> "4" to "x" in the
> 13 : ... expression to make it apply for any starting value.
>
> So here's a lovely compact tacit version which addresses those issues,
> at the expense
> of returning the wrong sign for a negative starting value:
>
>     fa=: (* ([: |  -) 3 %~ [: <: ]) _2&^    NB. with a [: to keep Linda
> happy
> So,
>     4 fa 200x
> 5892106162282964343653861005250929542581410977203573729438379
> cf
>    4  (13 :'x p.~(([:(2&^)>:),.~ _1r3 *([:(2&^)>:) + _1&^)y' ) 199x
> 5892106162282964343653861005250929542581410977203573729438379
>
> If you want a table, the rank needs to be imposed:
>     4 5 fl"0/ 3 4 5
> 29 59 117
> 37 75 149
>
> A possibly easier way to understand why we need ((_2^n) - 1) % 3 is perhaps
> to inspect the general term.
> We have
>     a1 = 2a0 - 1    NB. using "Mathematical" notationrather than APL/J
>     a2 = 2a1 + 1 = 4a0 - 2 + 1
>     a3 = 2a2 - 1 = 8a0 - 4 + 2 - 1
> ...
>     an =          (2^n).a0 - (2^[n-1]) + (2^[n-2]) ... + (-1)^n
>
> The absolute sum of all terms except the first is | sum {i=0,n-1} _2^i  | ,
> which we know from High School maths is | [(_2^n) - 1]%[_2 -1]  | ,
> ie | [(_2^n) - 1]% 3  |
>
> If you want the correct sign for negative starting values, use
>     (fa * * [)   NB. ... which isn't quite so neat.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mike
> NB - previous correspondence not trimmed
>
>
> On 28/11/2018 09:49, Linda Alvord wrote:
> > Hi Cliff,
> >
> > It took a while but I got the explicit verb to work.
> >
> > f=: 13 :'4 p.~(([:(2&^)>:),.~ _1r3 *([:(2&^)>:) + _1&^)y'
> >
> >     f i.10
> > 7 15 29 59 117 235 469 939 1877 3755
> >
> >     f
> > 4 p.~ ([: 2&^ >:) ,.~ _1r3 * ([: 2&^ >:) + _1&^
> >
> > Linda
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Programming<[email protected]>  On Behalf Of 
> > Cliff Reiter
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:38 PM
> > To:[email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Recursive verbs
> >
> > I like that solution. Here is another approach
> >
> >      4 p.~(2&^@>: ,.~ _1r3 * 2&^@>: + _1&^)i. 10
> > 7 15 29 59 117 235 469 939 1877 3755
> >
> > I found this by composing the linear poly's and noting the constant terms 
> > satisfy a two step recursion with eigenvalues 2 and _1.
> >
> >      lc=.({.@[+{:@[*{.@]),*&{:
> >      lc/\.(7$_1 2,:1 2)
> > _43 128
> > _21  64
> > _11  32
> >    _5  16
> >    _3   8
> >    _1   4
> >    _1   2
> >
> >
> > On 11/27/2018 11:06 AM, Raul Miller wrote:
> >> Sure, ... that's a bit bulkier than I prefer, but it works.
> >>
> >> Here's another alternative:
> >>
> >>      evenodd=: , (_1 2,:_1 4)&p.@{:
> >>      evenodd evenodd 4
> >> 4 7 15 29 59
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
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