This was me. Very nice to hear that someone found it helpful. Thanks for going
out of your way to say thanks!

Jim Russell <jimsruss...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Who do I thank tor this? It is a particularly clear and helpful exclamation.  
> Thank you!
> 
> > On Mar 13, 2020, at 3:56 AM, ethiejiesa via Programming 
> > <programm...@jsoftware.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I'll contribute a little prose. Hopefully, it's helpful.
> > 
> > In this particular case, notice that > transforms your list of boxes into a 
> > 5x6
> > table:
> > 
> >> (6?55);(6?55);(6?55);(6?55);(6?55)
> >    13 4 19 43 3 52
> >    10 1 4 46 52 11
> >    38 12 48 50 54 45
> >    36 54 39 35 53 50
> >    44 1 7 54 11 41
> > 
> > So, we should be able to easily "reverse" the above, meaning that dealing 
> > with
> > a 5x6 array is pretty much the same as dealing with 5 boxes of 6-arrays. 
> > Let's
> > just keep this in mind for now, and first try to generate this 6x5 table.
> > 
> > The key point of ? is that it's monadic and dyadic ranks are all 0, meaning
> > that it transforms an array of integers into a corresponding array of random
> > numbers:
> > 
> >        ? 50 6 $ 55
> >    ...
> > 
> > produces a random 50x6 array of integers each in the range i.55. This is not
> > quite what we want, but we first note that it can be more idiomatically
> > written:
> > 
> >        50 6 ?@$ 55
> > 
> > The utility of @ (and @:) become a lot more apparent when writing tacit
> > expressions. In general, x u@v y is equivalent to u (x v y), applying u 
> > "atop"
> > x v y, hence the mnemonic. (NB. The difference between u@v and u@:v is that
> > they produce verbs of different rank.)
> > 
> > The dyad n?m produces n random numbers without replacement. Your posed 
> > problem
> > is to generate 50 such lists, so conceptually we want to *reshape* the
> > arguments of ? into 50-lists:
> > 
> >        (50$6) ? (50$55)
> > 
> > but, better yet, as lots of verbs to ? will automatically reshape an atomic
> > argument to the shape of the other argument, so we can abbreviate the above 
> > in
> > one of two ways:
> > 
> >        6 ? (50$55) NB. or
> >        (50$6) ? 55
> > 
> > In the first case, the parentheses are not necessary due to J parsing 
> > rules, so
> > its more compact and idomatic to elide them
> > 
> >        6 ? 50$55
> > 
> > These three previous options should produce the desired random tables. Now,
> > putting things together, we just want to "redo" the boxing we did in the
> > beginning example:
> > 
> >        <"1 (6 ? 50$55)
> > 
> > Which should give the desired result. We need the
> > parenthesis to separate the 1 from the 6, otherwise J would interpret this 
> > as
> > <"1 6. Another way to break up the list lexing is like this:
> > 
> >        <"1 [ 6 ? 50 $ 55
> > 
> > Anyway, Hui's use of &. is even nicer. The key ideas is that u&.v first 
> > runs v
> >> on u's aguments and then *undoes* v on the result. The really neat thing is
> >> that > is a no-op on non-boxed atoms:
> >> 
> >>> 42
> >>    42
> >> 
> >> So the idea is to let > be a no-op on our input array of integers, then 
> >> let ?
> >> do it's thing, and finally *undo* > on *each* result. And since undoing > 
> >> is
> >> simply doing <, we get what we want.
> >> 
> >>        6 ?&.> 50 $ 55
> >> 
> >> The "each result" part above is exactly why this form is slick. ?&.> has 
> >> the
> >> rank of >, i.e. 0 0 0. This means that it will box each list produced by ? 
> >> as
> >> the integers are fed to it, which is exactly what we want in this case.
> >> 
> >> Very cool stuff. Rank!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Skip Cave <s...@caveconsulting.com> wrote:
> >> Wow! Two completely different ways to generate multiple sets of random
> >> integers. Roger used &. which I haven't really ever used or understood. I
> >> will definitely need to understand &. for the future. Devon used @, which I
> >> also haven't used very much. I need to find some practice and  training
> >> examples to work on both concepts.
> >> 
> >> Skip Cave
> >> Cave Consulting LLC
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 12:04 AM Devon McCormick <devon...@gmail.com> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>   6 5?@$55
> >>> Will give you a 6x5 table that is 6 independent rows of 5?55.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 12:52 AM Roger Hui <rogerhui.can...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>>   6 ?&.> 5 $ 55
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> ┌────────────────┬─────────────────┬───────────────┬─────────────────┬───────────────┐
> >>>> │47 28 45 25 8 36│22 40 23 20 11 49│15 16 42 38 4 5│50 45 38 37 13 28│42
> >>> 4
> >>>> 36 7 23 49│
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> └────────────────┴─────────────────┴───────────────┴─────────────────┴───────────────┘
> >>>> 
> >>>>   6 ?&.> 50 $ 55
> >>>> ...
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:49 PM Skip Cave <s...@caveconsulting.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> How can I generate the following result extended 50 times, without
> >>>> explicit
> >>>>> looping?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> (6?55);(6?55);(6?55);(6?55);(6?55)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> ┌───────────────┬───────────────┬─────────────────┬─────────────────┬───────────────┐
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> │13 4 19 43 3 52│10 1 4 46 52 11│38 12 48 50 54 45│36 54 39 35 53 50│44
> >>>> 1 7
> >>>>> 54 11 41│
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> └───────────────┴───────────────┴─────────────────┴─────────────────┴───────────────┘
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Skip Cave
> >>>>> Cave Consulting LLC
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> >>> 
> >>> --
> >>> 
> >>> Devon McCormick, CFA
> >>> 
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