Thanks Hauke for your reply. That helped me see how to proceed.

I mentioned that it would still be nice to have a simple way to remove the
horizontal and corner box characters for times when presenting J in venues
where fixed-width or unicode fonts are not available.


Here's what i mean:

m=.'abc';'rtyuio';'b';'asdf';'wdrtybji';'ee';'nuko';'n'

Not this:

m

┌───┬──────┬─┬────┬────────┬──┬────┬─┐

│abc│rtyuio│b│asdf│wdrtybji│ee│nuko│n│

└───┴──────┴─┴────┴────────┴──┴────┴─┘


But this:

m

│abc│rtyuio│b│asdf│wdrtybji│ee│nuko│n│



Not this:

2 4$m

┌────────┬──────┬────┬────┐

│abc │rtyuio│b │asdf│

├────────┼──────┼────┼────┤

│wdrtybji│ee │nuko│n │

└────────┴──────┴────┴────┘


But this:

2 4$m

│abc│rtyuio│b│asdf│

│wdrtybji│ee│nuko│n│


As a format option.


Skip Cave
Cave Consulting LLC


On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 12:44 PM Hauke Rehr <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Skip,
>
> this is how I would try to achieve what you’re after
>
>     ] suits =: u: 9824 9827 9829 9830
> ♠♣♥♦
>     ;/ values =: (3 2 $ ' J Q K') , ": >: i. 10 1
> ┌──┬──┬──┬──┬──┬──┬──┬──┬──┬──┬──┬──┬──┐
> │ J│ Q│ K│ 1│ 2│ 3│ 4│ 5│ 6│ 7│ 8│ 9│10│
> └──┴──┴──┴──┴──┴──┴──┴──┴──┴──┴──┴──┴──┘
>     deck =: ,/ values ,"1/ ":"0 suits
>     _4 <\ deck
> ┌───┬───┬───┬───┬───┬───┬───┬───┬───┬───┬───┬───┬───┐
> │ J♠│ Q♠│ K♠│ 1♠│ 2♠│ 3♠│ 4♠│ 5♠│ 6♠│ 7♠│ 8♠│ 9♠│10♠│
> │ J♣│ Q♣│ K♣│ 1♣│ 2♣│ 3♣│ 4♣│ 5♣│ 6♣│ 7♣│ 8♣│ 9♣│10♣│
> │ J♥│ Q♥│ K♥│ 1♥│ 2♥│ 3♥│ 4♥│ 5♥│ 6♥│ 7♥│ 8♥│ 9♥│10♥│
> │ J♦│ Q♦│ K♦│ 1♦│ 2♦│ 3♦│ 4♦│ 5♦│ 6♦│ 7♦│ 8♦│ 9♦│10♦│
> └───┴───┴───┴───┴───┴───┴───┴───┴───┴───┴───┴───┴───┘
>
> deck is pretty much your all in
> 4 13$(52?52){all
> As long as you don’t do any boxing, you won’t
> need to get rid of boxing characters.
> You can always insert | characters manually, though.
> If you feel like they make the dealt hands more readable.
>
> Am 07.07.20 um 18:45 schrieb Skip Cave:
> > The four suit symbols I was using were from a. 3 4 5 6{a.
> >
> > These symbols are not the same width as the character symbols in a. so
> they
> > mess up the boxing characters.
> >
> > ;/3 4 5 6{a.
> >
> > (My email fonts don't have the a. symbols)
> >
> > ┌─┬─┬─┬─┐
> >
> > │ │ │ │ │
> >
> > └─┴─┴─┴─┘
> >
> > I discovered that the unicode suit symbols u: 9824 9827 9829 9830
> >
> > are smaller, and seem to have the standard width:
> >
> > ;/u:9824 9827 9829 9830
> >
> > ┌─┬─┬─┬─┐
> >
> > │♠│♣│♥│♦│
> >
> > └─┴─┴─┴─┘
> >
> > So that solves the width problem when boxing.
> >
> >
> > The other issue I had with seemingly random spaces in the cards in a
> random
> > deal was caused by my four 10 cards (10 of spades, hearts. etc) having
> > three characters instead of two. J cleverly distributes spaces across
> each
> > boxes' content to make the boxes align. However, the seemingly random
> > distribution of spaces confused my diagnosis.
> >
> > J distributes spaces across all the cells to make the boxes align for
> > variable width contents. This exacerbates the issue with the non-standard
> > widths of the a. font. However, the fixed-width unicode symbols
> eliminates
> > the issue, though it might be better if the spaces were inserted before
> or
> > after the characters, rather than placed in the middle.
> >
> >
> > 4 13$(52?52){all
> >
> > ┌───┬───┬───┬───┬───┬───┬───┬───┬───┬───┬───┬───┬───┐
> >
> > │10♠│9 ♣│K ♥│3 ♣│J ♦│4 ♠│4 ♦│2 ♠│6 ♥│3 ♠│K ♦│Q ♥│J ♣│
> >
> > ├───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┤
> >
> > │5 ♥│5 ♠│9 ♥│Q ♠│7 ♦│5 ♣│3 ♥│10♦│8 ♦│J ♥│4 ♣│9 ♦│6 ♣│
> >
> > ├───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┤
> >
> > │8 ♣│J ♠│A ♣│7 ♣│Q ♦│6 ♦│10♣│K ♣│A ♥│2 ♥│A ♠│4 ♥│9 ♠│
> >
> > ├───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┼───┤
> >
> > │7 ♠│3 ♦│5 ♦│Q ♣│8 ♥│2 ♦│10♥│A ♦│K ♠│7 ♥│2 ♣│8 ♠│6 ♠│
> >
> > └───┴───┴───┴───┴───┴───┴───┴───┴───┴───┴───┴───┴───┘
> >
> > It would probably be better for me to use the character 'T' instead of
> 10,
> > so all the cards would have two characters.
> >
> >
> > Finally, it would still be nice to have a simple way to remove the
> > horizontal and corner box characters for times when presenting J in
> venues
> > where fixed-width or unicode fonts are not available.
> >
> >
> > Skip Cave
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 10:20 AM Raul Miller <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> If the fixed width font has variable width characters, that's not a
> >> bug in J, that's a problem with the font.
> >>
> >> One approach would be to rebuild the font's characters, enforcing a
> >> fixed width format. Doing this requires access to either suitable
> >> tools, or sufficient documentation on the font's data structures so
> >> that you can build your own tools.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Raul
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 11:10 AM Skip Cave <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> When working in JQT with some of the non-standard-width characters in
> a.,
> >>> the boxing formatting is incorrect.
> >>> Here's a link to a screenshot (.png) of my code in JQT attempting to
> >> create
> >>> all the 13 playing cards in 4 suits. https://bit.ly/2BD6LEQ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> As you can see, the horizontal boxing characters are incorrect, and
> don't
> >>> adjust for the wider characters, even though I'm using a fixed-width
> >> font.
> >>>
> >>> In the second part of the example, I randomly deal 4 hands from the
> deck
> >>> labeled 'all'.
> >>>
> >>> At this point, we have 4 hands of 13 cards, but there are random spaces
> >>> scattered in the boxed cards.
> >>>
> >>> Something went wrong, adding spaces after the random deal.
> >>>
> >>> In the third part, I remove all the horizontal boxing, making the
> display
> >>> look much neater, but the extra spaces are even more visible.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Two issues:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Something is inserting random spaces when randomly selecting boxed
> >> items.
> >>>
> >>> 2. It would be nice to have the boxing auto-adjust for variable width
> >>> characters. If that isn't possible, it would be useful to have a boxing
> >>> format option to remove horizontal boxing & corner characters for
> >>> environments that don't have fixed-with fonts, that use
> >> non-standard-width
> >>> characters, or that force double-spaced lines (Quora). After posting J
> >>> problems and solutions in various venues, it turns out that the
> vertical
> >>> bar (│) without horizontal bars or corners, is quite enough to clearly
> >>> delineate separate items in most cases.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Skip Cave
> >>> Cave Consulting LLC
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