Sometimes you just want to be extra sure.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 8:16 PM Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote:

> I can't answer that, but I can assure you that they do.
>
> Henry Rich
>
> On 1/16/2021 7:38 PM, bill lam wrote:
> > I didn't mean to change stdlib sooner or later, but if we do it again,
> rank
> > 0 should be a better option.
> >
> > Why users (beginner or not) would write a+"0 b or sin"0 ?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 8:20 AM Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> I would be happy for a user to do that, but changing stdlib might not be
> >> a good idea.  Beginning users often write
> >>
> >> a +"0 b
> >>
> >> and it doesn't cost them dearly.  If you make the change, sin"0 will be
> >> expensive.
> >>
> >> Henry Rich
> >>
> >> On 1/16/2021 7:17 PM, bill lam wrote:
> >>> Thanks. then defining sine as 1&o."0 should be fine.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 8:07 AM Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> What makes them efficient is IRS.  1&o. supports IRS; 1&o."0 does not.
> >>>> Is you define sin as 1&o."0, sin will run fast, but sin"0 will not.
> >>>>
> >>>> Henry Rich
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1/16/2021 6:24 PM, bill lam wrote:
> >>>>> IIUC All atomic math functions are rank 0 but support IRS so that
> they
> >>>> are
> >>>>> as efficient as rank infinity on long array arguments.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The question should be that
> >>>>> is 1&o."0 as efficient as 1&o. on long arrays.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 12:32 AM Henry Rich <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>> Terminology.  If verb v has IRS, it can handle v"n internally
> without
> >> a
> >>>>>> rank loop.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> + has IRS.  +"n does not need a rank loop.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> +"n does not have IRS.  +"n"n2 does need a rank loop.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> +/@:*"1 has IRS, but +/@:* does not - that's how they're coded.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1&o."0 does not have IRS.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Henry Rich
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1/16/2021 11:27 AM, bill lam wrote:
> >>>>>>> but the verb in this question is
> >>>>>>> (1&o.)"0
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> even if 1&o. has IRS, does (1&o.)"0 also has IRS ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 12:02 AM Henry Rich <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> m&v does have IRS if v does.  I didn't know that until I just
> >> checked.
> >>>>>>>> Henry Rich
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 1/16/2021 7:10 AM, bill lam wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if 1&o."0 has IRS (integrated rank support) or not.
> If
> >>>> it
> >>>>>>>>> doesn't then I think the phase with infinity rank is fine.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021, 7:02 PM Arnab Chakraborty <
> >> [email protected]>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>         Just wondering if the correct defn of sin shouldn't be
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> sin=:1&o."0
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> instead of
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> sin=:1&o.
> >>>>>>>>>>       which has rank infinity.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> With the rank infinity definition +/@sin behaves just like
> +/@:sin
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But, ideally, +/@sin 4 5 should be a list of two numbers, while
> >>>>>> +/@:sin
> >>>>>>>>>> should be their sum.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Just like, +/@*: and +/@:*:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks and regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Arnab
> >>>>>>>>>>
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