It would be highly misleading to suggest that J is not included
'because it chose not to be'.

There is no reason, in a day of 64-bit address spaces, to place
a restriction like "don't slurp files" on an implementation.
When J doesn't participate in a contest that makes capricious
and unreasonable demands, it's because of the demands.

Other languages don't 'suffer under' byte-at-a-time restrictions,
because they don't know any better.  Make some specifications like
'must give exact results on all integer inputs from _1e100 to +1e100'
or 'the program must generate a program to calculate the result
and pass that program as a parameter to an execution engine
which will execute the generated program without a compilation step'.
All languages would suffer equally under those requirements, no?
And those requirements actually might have some use in real life.

Henry Rich

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Isaac Gouy
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 12:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Computer Language Benchmarks Game
> 
> 
> --- Dan Bron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> -snip-
> > IG>   it is what it is, take it or leave it.  
> > 
> > Agreed.  And, AFAICT the consensus is "leave it".  At least, Raul's
> > recent message expressed my feelings well in 
> >
> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2007-December/0
08982.html
> 
> 
> When in the future, people raise the topic here (as they inevitably
> will) - why isn't J included in the benchmarks game - I'd 
> appreciate it
> if you could explain to them that some of you chose not to be.
> 
> 
> To be absolutely clear: I have no objection to showing a big 
> bunch of J
> programs, if someone decides to implement them within the same
> restrictions the other programming languages suffer under. 
> 
> 
> Maybe they think they can do that without your help - that's 
> up to them.
> 
> 
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