Thanks for the pointers.

Before I try this out, a question on J OLEAUTOMATION - is the message pump
setup in this case? I am using async sockets and I think I need the message
pump setup here.

Atleast jconsole option fails because of this (I guess).

~Yuva


On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Alex Rufon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi Yuvaraj,
>
> I did hit this snag a few years ago and I did work-around this using the
> following options.
> 1. Make a Windows service, mine is using C++ with ATL, which calls an
> instance of J OLEAUTOMATION server every time I need to calculate.
> Having 4 concurrent client may mean 4 or more instance of J sessions
> running at the same time.
> 2. I use C# or VB.NET as the front end system and calls/executes J
> scripts when needed. I can have 1 or more J session running in the
> background depending on the need of the client. Actual real life
> implementation of this only runs 1 instance of J at one time. The
> instance is closed as soon as processing is done. The cool thing is that
> the front end system built with VB.NET still looks likes it's working.
> ;)
>
> You mentioned something about working with large amount of data. I was
> able to make a real long operation (large data) faster by partitioning
> my data into coherent atomic partitions. I basically chopped my data
> into smaller pieces, made 5 calls to the Windows service handler and
> waited for all the 5 calls to return. Then made a 6th call which just
> consolidates the results. I also cheated a bit, instead of sending data
> between the client and the windows service, I just made J connect
> directly the MS-SQL server database and giving it a unique id (GUID) to
> identify its data for retrieval and save. The first 5 calls saves the
> data to a temporary table and the last call consolidates the results by
> reading the data from the temp table and saving the data into the actual
> target table.
>
> You can use the following guides and technologies to get you on the
> path:
> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Guides/Windows_Progress_Dialog - how to
> make a progress dialog using J
> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/DB - guides on using databases with J
> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Interfaces - guides on using J from other
> programming languages
> http://www.zeroc.com/ - a faster replacement for JSockets. Believe me
> ... this is WAY-WAY-WAY faster than using pure J sockets when
> transferring data from a J client to a J server or any programming
> language over the network.
> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/JWebServer - a J webserver which may be
> usefull for you. :)
>
> Good luck!
>
> r/Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Bron
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 10:59 PM
> To: Programming forum
> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Multi-threading in J?
>
> > I was not able to locate any lab or description of multi-threaded
> > programming in J/Win32 in my quick search.
>
> J is single threaded.  You cannot create multiple threads in J.
>
> > In the User Documentation, there is the statement that for these
> cases:
> > "best designed from the ground up to have the GUI part in one
> execution
> > thread or task that is always responsive and the data processing part
> in a
> > separate thread or task." [1].
>
> Funny, I never realized this statement was ambiguous if you didn't
> already know what it was trying to tell you :)
>
> What it's suggesting is that you embed J as a calculation engine in a
> larger framework.  For example, you could build a .NET project with a C#
> GUI for the frontend and the J dll or COM objects for the backend.
>
> Another easy path would be to run two separate J processes (one for the
> frontend, one for the backend), and have the communicate via sockets and
> mapped files.
>
> -Dan
>
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