On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Mike Powell <[email protected]> wrote:
> However, once the volume is established, I suggest that the Bohr atom
> is not a good choice. If the Universe ever gets anything like full
> there will not be atoms around. Gravitation will have squeezed
> everything down to nuclei. There will be something like a sea of
> particles, some will be recognizable as nuclei (of hydrogen,
> helium, ... iron etc), but much may just be a mush of protons,
> neutrons and electrons. As far as I can follow, the process could lead
> further: for example, a sea of quarks, or string soup. From my
> reading, those that study these things are contemplating matter in its
> ground quantum state. Things don't get much denser than that.

It would probably degrade into a black hole, with zero particles.
This might be analogous to this thread degrading into a discussion
of the character of _.

However, I suspect Roger was not specifically hypothesizing
to determine the character of some dense imaginary universe,
but was attempting to find an upper bound on the capacity of
our own.  And, since our own universe does not currently seem
to be in such a state, ...

-- 
Raul
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