At 14:21  -0700 2009/08/31, Roger Hui wrote:
>  > The best rejoinder I've heard to the referenced discussion is,
>>  "If I'm so smart, why don't you listen to what I'm telling you?"
>
>I recently saw that in a video of Dick Lathwell, who attributed
>it Ken Iverson. 
>
>Ken told me once about the "indefensible attack":
>Yeah, it [APL] is easy for you; you guys are geniuses.
>(What are we going to say?  No, we are not geniuses?
>No, it's not easy for us either? ...)
>
>Funny that he'd tell me about the attack but not the
>defense, which would have been "If you think I am
>so smart, why don't you follow my advice?".

I accept Dick's attribution, but my memory of it was as said by Dick 
himself in just such a discussion with the VSAPL/VSPC development 
group in Palo Alto c. 1975 -- I had to restrain myself to keep a 
business like appearance....

Looking back, the going's on around VSPC were quite amusing .... One 
"friend of APL" told a customer, (in Calgary) where IBM wanted to 
install VSPC, that Sharp APL might corrode the circuitry in their 
mainframe. (I'm not making this up!)

- joey

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