Since I long ago swiped a few of Dan's global definitions, I can tell you
   UCALPHA-:'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ'

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Jose Mario Quintana <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I hit that wall years ago; this is what I currently use instead of U^:V^:_
> in similar situations:
>
>    U while V
> 0&({::)@:((U^:([`1:`(0&({::)@])) ,&< -.@:(1&({::)@:]))^:(''"_ $
> ,@:(V^:([`1:`(0&({::)@]))))^:_^:([`1:`((] ,&< 0:)@])))
>
>
> This is a modification, following a hint from Henry, of another shorter
> version of while that unfortunately had multiple instances of U or V
> resulting in generating over-sized code.
>
> By the way, what is UCALPHA?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dan Bron <[email protected]>
> To: Programming Forum <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2009 11:43:59 AM
> Subject: [Jprogramming] Limit limitation
>
> I'm seeking a stylish workaround to the a constraint on applications of
> ^:_  .
>
> The idiom  ^:_  is well designed and well documented.  It is one of the
> most useful tools in the J kit and has broad applicability.  However,
> there are some cases where it's almost, but not quite, applicable.
>
> Consider the form  f^:g^:_  where  g  is a conditional which determines if
> f  is to be applied (again).  Of course if g returns 0, then f isn't
> applied, and  f^:g  becomes an identity function, which means its output
> will match its input, and  ^:_  will terminate.  So usually  ^:g^:_  acts
> as a while loop, independent of the operation of f, terminating iff g is
> 0.
>
> But now consider an f that is not one-to-one.  That is, an f where two or
> more distinct inputs may produce identical outputs.  Using this f in
> f^:g^:_ becomes problematic.  If f receives two inputs in a row which map
> to the same output, then the loop will terminate early (that is, even if g
> is 1).
>
> Here's a recent example.  I'm trying to code the "evoluationary algorithm"
> from RC  http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Evolutionary_algorithm  .  The code I
> have so far reads [1]:
>
>     CHARS    =: ' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ'
>     randomize =: fivePct`mutation}
>     fivePct  =: 0.05 >: $ ?...@$  0:
>     mutation  =: (UCALPHA,' ')&(] ,: [ {~ $...@] ?...@$ #...@[)
>     score    =: +/@:~:"1
>     copy100  =: 100 $ ,:
>     done      =: 1 - -:
>     initial  =: CHARS ([ {~ ?...@$&#~ ) [
>
>         f        =:  ([ (] {~ (i. <./)@:score) randomize@:copy100@:])
>
>     (f^:done^:_: initial) 'METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL'
>
> The problem I'm hitting is that f here isn't deterministic.  It takes a
> "parent", generates a random population, and selects the fittest member of
> that population -- which could legitimately be the original parent.  Hence
> input and output are identical and  f^:done^:_:  terminates "early".  What
> is I want is for  f^:done^:_:  to terminate iff  done  is true (that is,
> 'METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL' -: y  ).
>
> Now, I understand that  ^:_  is doing the right thing.  I just want it to
> do a slightly different thing, and I'm asking for elegant ways to achieve
> that.  I know I've hit this wall before.  Has anyone else?  Can you
> suggest a stylish workaround?
>
> One method I'm considering is artificially (but reversibly) changing the
> output of  f  at every iteration, as in  defining  f_new =: -.&.>@:{. ,&<
> f  (that is, concatenating a boolean and negating it every iteration).
>
> -Dan
>
> [1]  Bear in mind this code is still in development, and may suffer from
> problems other than the one in question.
>
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