> Can you suggest anything we might do to make the blue box less forbidding?

I like the box. It says to me: here's a real neat packet of
information you're going to need, though you don't know it yet. No
harm if you pass it up on first reading. That's really what I meant by
"forbidding" -- not quite the right term. Let's say: "official".

But provide a clear way into the Mysteries for when the reader comes
back to it. A link: "[What's this all about?]" would do that for me.

I don't think the blue colour serves any purpose. It hints slightly it
has something to do with the Moin topbar -- viz. nothing to do with
the (J) content. It may conflict with other use of colour (though the
code-blocks are coloured and that seems not to matter.)

> ...it sounds like you know what you're talking about!!

I've been a HF engineer. I've published papers in it. But don't let me
kid you I can predict the results of experiments. I can't.

Nobody can. (Else why would the experiments need doing?)

Ian



On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Sherlock, Ric
<r.g.sherl...@massey.ac.nz> wrote:
>> From: Ian Clark
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Sherlock, Ric wrote:
>>
>> Example.
>> The scary words Monadic and Dyadic being the first things to hit you on
>> a page.
>> Remedy: try offering additional links: Monadic [...What's this?] ...
>> Dyadic [...What's this?] ... -rather than hyperlinking just the words
>> Monadic and Dyadic. It's not clear to a novice you'll go anywhere
>> useful if you click a link saying Monadic, of all things!
>> Find a novice and ask her: what do you think you'd see if you clicked
>> that word?
>> Many official websites for the general public use this trick: it works.
>
> This sounds like a very good suggestion to me. The next trick will be to add 
> the link without making it look yuk!
>
>> Another example.
>> The forbidding blue box at the top right.
>> Actually it whispers "for official use only" -- so the novice will
>> filter it out, simply won't see it.
>> Find a novice and ask her. Not: did you see that blue box? (answer:
>> yes of course) but: what's the Part of Speech of "Ceiling"?
>> Remedy: try sticking a link below it: "[...What's this blue box all
>> about?]"
>
> Can you suggest anything we might do to make the blue box less forbidding? 
> Please feel free to change the current page to illustrate if that is easiest.
>
>> It goes without saying that these links are best provided on the
>> template. They'll be on every page, but they'll only be clicked once.
>> The big risk is they won't be clicked at all -- and the novice turns
>> round and asks the very question they're there to answer. (Seen it
>> happen.)
>>
>> Correct use of colour.
>> (Robertson, P. J., A guide to using color on alphanumeric displays.
>> IBM United Kingdom Laboratories, Winchester : 1979)
>> Colour is supremely good for two things -- and two only: (a) drawing
>> the eye, (b) implicitly asserting a relationship between separated
>> objects. It's a survival mechanism: it lets you recognise a tiger even
>> if there's a big tree trunk splitting its retinal image in two. But
>> use colour sparingly, i.e. to support only one task at a time.
>> Otherwise it soon becomes visual noise.
>>
>> If using colour for task support, avoid it for decoration. Even very
>> intelligent people don't know the difference between task support and
>> decoration when it comes to colour. Don't believe me? Then ask what
>> task is supported by exhaustively colouring every verb, conjunction,
>> etc (...suggested but not used yet).
>
> I must admit I'm a little bit lost here. My intention was that the colours 
> should help distinguish the part-of-speech that each primitive belongs to. 
> However I get the feeling that is the wrong answer or that I'm missing a 
> bigger point. My only agenda is that this should be a useful resource to J 
> learners, so please feel free to suggest and/or change whatever you think 
> might help us towards that goal - it sounds like you know what you're talking 
> about!!
>
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