Oops my bad, I think this is more appropriate for chat so I've posted over there [1].
Cheers, bob [1] http://jsoftware.com/pipermail/chat/2010-November/004007.html On 2010-11-22, at 9:25 AM, bob therriault wrote: > Thanks for the mention Dan, > > I've just added a more detailed (though shorter :) ) screencast of the > Reflexive Adverb [1] > Comments and feedback is always welcome. I see the current efforts as > explorations. > > At some point in the future, the resources may need to be brought together > for a more integrated approach to education/advocating/evangelising the use > of the J programming language. This doesn't mean I think the existing > resources (labs, demos etc.) aren't amazing, but rather they might be > enriched with the technologies that are now available. > > Cheers, bob > > [1] Reflexive Adverb > http://bobtherriault.wordpress.com/2010/11/22/reflexive-adverb-monadic/ > > On 2010-11-21, at 5:15 PM, Dan Bron wrote: > >> Ian wrote: >>> can't believe [a tacit-to-explicit translator] >>> hasn't been done already. >> >> It is not so surprising. When you want it, you cannot make it. And when you >> can make it, you no longer want it. >> >> For the subset that can make it and still want it, it is somewhat difficult >> to remember exactly what you wanted. For example, where is it appropriate >> to cut a tacit one-liner into smaller chunks to be distributed among several >> lines in the resulting explicit definition? Certainly not at every @ . >> Etc. >> >> On my J todo list for several years has been a J "coach" similar to the >> "Regex Buddy" at [1]. I've just never got up the initiative to do it. On a >> more promising front, Bob Therriault has recently been building web videos >> that demonstrate certain J primitives and tacit expressions graphically [2]. >> >> Personally, I learned tacit by writing, rather than reading, a lot of it. >> J's default interface encourages this habit; it is productive & fun to build >> programs in the IJX window, which effectively limits you to one line. Using >> IJSes & flipping back and forth was enough of an additional friction that I >> never developed a taste for explicit code and its multiple lines. But >> having written enough, I also find tacit easy to read. Whether it's easier >> or harder than explicit (or than Java, or English, etc) depends on the >> application. >> >> -Dan >> >> [1] Regex Buddy: http://www.regexbuddy.com/regex.html >> [2] Bob's animated explanation of J adverbs: >> http://bobtherriault.wordpress.com/2010/11/17/those-tricky-adverbs/ >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm