no problem
 

From: Dan Bron <[email protected]>
To: J Programming <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Subject: monadic rank of roll and deal

Ah, yes, sorry.  Didn't read in detail, apologies for the noise.

-Dan


Please excuse typos; composed on a handheld device.

-----Original Message-----
From: Raul Miller <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 11:10:03 
To: Programming forum<[email protected]>
Reply-To: Programming forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Subject: monadic rank of roll and deal

_ was not an output, it was part of the rank.

-- 
Raul

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Dan Bron <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think the more puzzling behavior here isn't that ?. is different from ? but 
> that ?. is giving a manifestly incorrect result wrt its definition. Whatever 
> rank ?. is, each element of its result should be strictly less than the 
> corresponding atom of its argument.  Also an output of_ is just nonsensical, 
> no matter what the input.
>
>
> I appreciate Raul's comment re the distaste for ?. generally, but I think 
> that's more applicable to your observation re rank than REB's re_ , which is 
> a bug and should be fixed.
>
> -Dan
>
>
>
> Please excuse typos; composed on a handheld device.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Niemiec <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 07:20:35
> To: J Programming Forum<[email protected]>
> Reply-To: Programming forum <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Jprogramming] Subject:  monadic rank of roll and deal
>
> "R.E. Boss" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>   ? b. 0
>>
>> 0 0 0
>>
>>
>>
>>   ?. b. 0
>>
>>_ 0 0
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this intended?
>
>   ?.10#10
> 6 5 9 2 4 9 0 7 0 4
>   ?."0]10#10
> 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6
>
> Before 6.02, ?. had rank 0, which caused inconsistent behavior,
> since "0 should have no effect on a verb that is already rank 0.
>
> It is impossible to write a user-defined verb that emulates the
> behavior of ?. without making its rank infinite. As far as I know,
> this was the only J primitive that had this kind of behavior.
>
> -- Mark D. Niemiec <[email protected]>
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