I needed to use J6 yesterday because I was giving a demonstration. The demo facility in J6 is superb.
I think if we could get all the demos from J6 to J7 we could move all the users too. I like the demos in J7 JHS but they are not very many. In J7 GTK there are hardly any demos and those who are there are not easy to use nor demo. The run facilities in J7 I have never made heads or tails on and the docs for J7 GTK are rather scarce and confusing. I have often wanted see or write J for dummies but maybe J is not meant for dummies. As usual the people at the demo found it impressive but I seriously doubt it they will become users. Sooooo.... I do understand your point of staying in J6 but I would like more people like you to take the leap and move over and help creating demos/labs/helps in order for the rest of the world benefiting from these marvelous environments. 2011/11/11 Ian Clark <[email protected]> > In time... yes. But right now, that's a cross-platform too far. > > 2011/11/10 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>: > > Hmmm... > > > > Not gone in for J7? > > > > 2011/11/10 Ian Clark <[email protected]> > > > >> Trying to put the finishing touched on a cross-platform app written > >> using j602 JWD. > >> Mostly developed on the Mac, which means that some unexpected behavior > >> under Win2000 has gone unnoticed until now. > >> > >> JVERSION > >> Installer: j602a_win.exe > >> Engine: j602/2008-03-03/16:45 > >> Library: 6.02.056 > >> > >> Windows 2000 > >> Version 5.0 (Build 2195: Service Pack 4) > >> > >> If my "wd" form definition contains the lines: > >> > >> menupop "File"; > >> menu newtt "&New" "Ctrl+N" "Start a new ttable" "new"; > >> menu opens "Open Sample" "Ctrl+Shift+O" "Open a sample ttable" "sample"; > >> ... > >> > >> then I'd expect keying Ctrl+N would post sysevent: tab_newtt_button, > >> and Ctrl+Shift+O would post sysevent: tab_opens_button . This is what > >> happens on the Mac (keying ⌘ for Ctrl, which is a long-standing Mac > >> convention for cross-platform products). > >> > >> However, under Win2000, Ctrl+N posts sysevent: tab_nctrl_fkey, and > >> Ctrl+Shift+O posts sysevent: tab_octrlshift_fkey. All other hotkeys > >> post sysevents named in the same vein. (Except for Ctrl+Z, Alt+G, > >> Alt+H -- which seem to follow rules of their own.) > >> > >> These extra handlers are not difficult to provide, eg like this: > >> tab_nctrl_fkey=: tab_newtt_button > >> etc... > >> whereupon the hotkeys works fine (apart of course from Ctrl+Z, Alt+G, > >> Alt+H). > >> > >> I'd like to know: is this a bug or a feature? Where is it documented? > >> Has it been there from the start, or is it a recent change to > >> '~system/extras/util'? Can it be relied upon with all post-2000 > >> Windows versions? What happens under Linux? > >> > >> Although I mostly use the Mac, I have written J apps to run under Win > >> XP and I've never noticed this behavior before. Of course I may never > >> actually have tried a hotkey. > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur > > Fornustekkum II > > 781 Hornafirði, > > t-póst: [email protected] > > gsm: +3546985532 > > twitter: @flugfiskur > > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming > > > > > > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans > > > > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum > > /|_ .-----------------------------------. > > ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | > > ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | > > / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | > > ( -. | `-----------------------------------' > > | ) | (\_ _/) > > (`-. '--.) (='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ > > `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur Fornustekkum II 781 Hornafirði, t-póst: [email protected] gsm: +3546985532 twitter: @flugfiskur http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum /|_ .-----------------------------------. ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | ( -. | `-----------------------------------' | ) | (\_ _/) (`-. '--.) (='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
