I shall use J7 when I'm forced to. Which is likely to be soon, now, as it happens.
2011/11/11 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>: > I needed to use J6 yesterday because I was giving a demonstration. > > The demo facility in J6 is superb. > > I think if we could get all the demos from J6 to J7 we could move all the > users too. > > I like the demos in J7 JHS but they are not very many. > In J7 GTK there are hardly any demos and those who are there are not easy > to use nor demo. > > The run facilities in J7 I have never made heads or tails on and the docs > for J7 GTK are rather scarce and confusing. > > I have often wanted see or write J for dummies but maybe J is not meant for > dummies. > > As usual the people at the demo found it impressive but I seriously doubt > it they will become users. > > Sooooo.... > > I do understand your point of staying in J6 but I would like more people > like you to take the leap and move over and help creating demos/labs/helps > in order for the rest of the world benefiting from these marvelous > environments. > > > 2011/11/11 Ian Clark <[email protected]> > >> In time... yes. But right now, that's a cross-platform too far. >> >> 2011/11/10 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>: >> > Hmmm... >> > >> > Not gone in for J7? >> > >> > 2011/11/10 Ian Clark <[email protected]> >> > >> >> Trying to put the finishing touched on a cross-platform app written >> >> using j602 JWD. >> >> Mostly developed on the Mac, which means that some unexpected behavior >> >> under Win2000 has gone unnoticed until now. >> >> >> >> JVERSION >> >> Installer: j602a_win.exe >> >> Engine: j602/2008-03-03/16:45 >> >> Library: 6.02.056 >> >> >> >> Windows 2000 >> >> Version 5.0 (Build 2195: Service Pack 4) >> >> >> >> If my "wd" form definition contains the lines: >> >> >> >> menupop "File"; >> >> menu newtt "&New" "Ctrl+N" "Start a new ttable" "new"; >> >> menu opens "Open Sample" "Ctrl+Shift+O" "Open a sample ttable" "sample"; >> >> ... >> >> >> >> then I'd expect keying Ctrl+N would post sysevent: tab_newtt_button, >> >> and Ctrl+Shift+O would post sysevent: tab_opens_button . This is what >> >> happens on the Mac (keying ⌘ for Ctrl, which is a long-standing Mac >> >> convention for cross-platform products). >> >> >> >> However, under Win2000, Ctrl+N posts sysevent: tab_nctrl_fkey, and >> >> Ctrl+Shift+O posts sysevent: tab_octrlshift_fkey. All other hotkeys >> >> post sysevents named in the same vein. (Except for Ctrl+Z, Alt+G, >> >> Alt+H -- which seem to follow rules of their own.) >> >> >> >> These extra handlers are not difficult to provide, eg like this: >> >> tab_nctrl_fkey=: tab_newtt_button >> >> etc... >> >> whereupon the hotkeys works fine (apart of course from Ctrl+Z, Alt+G, >> >> Alt+H). >> >> >> >> I'd like to know: is this a bug or a feature? Where is it documented? >> >> Has it been there from the start, or is it a recent change to >> >> '~system/extras/util'? Can it be relied upon with all post-2000 >> >> Windows versions? What happens under Linux? >> >> >> >> Although I mostly use the Mac, I have written J apps to run under Win >> >> XP and I've never noticed this behavior before. Of course I may never >> >> actually have tried a hotkey. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur >> > Fornustekkum II >> > 781 Hornafirði, >> > t-póst: [email protected] >> > gsm: +3546985532 >> > twitter: @flugfiskur >> > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming >> > >> > >> > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans >> > >> > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum >> > /|_ .-----------------------------------. >> > ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | >> > ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | >> > / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | >> > ( -. | `-----------------------------------' >> > | ) | (\_ _/) >> > (`-. '--.) (='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ >> > `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > > > > -- > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur > Fornustekkum II > 781 Hornafirði, > t-póst: [email protected] > gsm: +3546985532 > twitter: @flugfiskur > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming > > > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans > > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum > /|_ .-----------------------------------. > ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | > ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | > / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | > ( -. | `-----------------------------------' > | ) | (\_ _/) > (`-. '--.) (='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ > `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
