... but you are not me.

Anyways, here is my point of view:

First, I am never going to use JHS from another machine, because JHS
does not deal with network security issues.  So I am only going to let
it listen on localhost.

Second, if I am starting jhs, any old jijx browser session is stale
and will give me errors if I try to use it.

Third, when I want to use J I do not want a laborious process before I
can use my J sentences.

-- 
Raul


2011/12/28 Björn Helgason <gos...@gmail.com>:
> As far as I am concerned I do not see this as one event.
>
> You start the JHS server and it is not related to the event of opening a
> gui or using services from the server.
> The server is just there after you start it and is waiting for requests.
> It may be on the same machine but it can also be on another machine.
> You can open many sessions and ask for services from the server.
>
> When you open a browser you can have a tab or several tabs open with
> different views and getting a tab with jal or help or demo or ijx or ijs
> and so on so it is no natural start of the JHS server and then what tabs,
> browsers or machines will use it.
>
> 2011/12/28 Raul Miller <rauldmil...@gmail.com>
>
>> I find myself not using jhs very often, mostly because of its
>> multi-step startup.
>>
>> But that's relatively easy to fix, temporarily at least.  I can edit
>> j64-701/addons/ide/jhs/core.ijs and add a line at the bottom:
>>
>> browse_j_ 'http://127.0.0.1:65001/jijx'
>>
>> Except... this is not a very good approach.  If nothing else, every
>> time core.ijs gets updated, I lose the change.  Also, I do not know
>> how stable that port number is.
>>
>> So, taking a step back, I could change the jhs startup script, adding
>> to the command line that starts J.
>>
>> Perhaps something like changing the tail
>>
>> ... -js " init_jhs_'' "
>>
>> to
>>
>> ... -js " browse_j_ URL_jhs_ [] init_jhs_'' "
>>
>> except that is not going to work either.  One issue here is that
>> URL_jhs_ is not a url.  Why?  I am not sure.
>>
>> But that's easy to fix -- I can just use the literal url, in its
>> place... except that that's not working for me.  I am not sure why.
>>
>> Perhaps the minds that think about the design of this part of the
>> system could consider if there might be a nice way of approaching this
>> issue?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Raul
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