I see what you all mean. But surveyors are all the time asking "where do I
specify the geoid model". Actually many people only know the geoid model,
and they have not idea that the is a vertical CRS.

(Probably because there is only one. Like the (small) countires with just
one projection, that they don't make a clear difference between the
geographic and the projected system)

On Mon, 8 Jun 2026 at 23:04, Greg Troxel via PROJ <[email protected]>
wrote:

> "Lesparre, Jochem" <[email protected]> writes:
>
> >> This explains why the Danish height system DVR90 is now in EPSG as a
> datum ensemble
> >
> > I'm not sure of the Danish situation, but for the Netherlands the only
> > official realisation of the height system is the levelling
> > benchmarks. The geoid provides only an approximate
> > transformation. Making it two different CRSs is an interesting tweak,
> > but I'm afraid it would only create more confusion.
>
> I think the the Netherlands situation is the same as the US (different
> orthometric height definitions, different underlying datum for HAE,
> different geoid models of course, but structurally the same).  In both
> NL and US cases, I think it is incorrect to add a CRS for [orthometric
> height estimated from HAE and GEOID X].
>
> (I believe, after off-list conversations with Kristian and trying to
> read a report in Danish, that in Denmark, there really are additional
> height system realizations.)
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