On 10.10.2013 16:48, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Hi!
WebSubmit is too laborious if you need to upload some
hundred files at once.
Sure for an initial ingetst I think your procedure sounds ok
(moulo my views of excel ;)
It’s good for later additions.
What I wanted to point out is a "lessons learned" from
our project. We went a similar way as you, writing a python
file to ingest some format and then developed websubmit for
later manual additions. In retrospective I would do it the
other way round: first develop the websubmit and then use
the functions we needed there anyway for the initial batch
ingestion. It's not a real deal breaker the way we did it as
we deliberatly disabled(!) web-modify for converted records,
ie. we decided that old records get modifications by bibedit
only, but in some places even if you have librarians for
this it would come in handy to use the logic of our (well
quite complex) websubmit.
[...]
But I’ll ask is someone has experiences with literature
management tools - but since most of our media won’t be
"literature", but films, audio books, posters, pictures,
brochures plus some eBooks I guess it wouldn’t help a lot.
Most of them can be handled by those tools as well.
[...]
Anyway, in a flat table you have some problem if not all
fields apply. Say you have in some cases an english, a
french and a german title you xls would require all three
columns all the time. In websubmits you'd just leave the
fields blank and let the submission functions handle it.
We (probably) don’t need multilanguage titles (if, then
the medium has several titles and we’ll put all of them
into the title field).
Hm, I'd think this over. Probably it's easier to ingest them
in the proper fields but fiddling them appart later on if
needs arise?
We just need translatable "tags", so that someone looking
for "dog" also finds media tagged with "hund" and "chien".
Probably you can use some existing vocabulary with
translations? LoC e.g. has linkate to German, I don't know
something the like in your languages as I know neither of
those languages but I can imagine that there's something
available as the USSR seemd to have a quite good library
system.
Can you hint me on the docs about setting up a
(translatable?) taxonomy tree or similar structure?
In Marc you'd like to check out Marc Authority for the field
structures
http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/
so you get an idea about how linkages (vertical as well as
horizontal can be done). In the appencices you'll also find
examples from LoC usage. For vocabularies we have only a
very limited useage at the moment, you can find our
vocabulary at
http://juser.fz-juelich.de/collection/HGFVOC
An example of a record using several vertical links might be
http://juser.fz-juelich.de/record/92145
But we use a similar structure like you need for a
vocabulary for our instituts (predecessors/successors make
horizontal links while the tree makes vertical links) You
can find a bunch of records in
http://juser.fz-juelich.de/collection/Institutes
e.g. one of my favourites (as the name is actually a
topological loop)
http://juser.fz-juelich.de/search?cc=Institutes&p=ICG-4
For a vocabulary, basically our x10 fields (110, 410, 510)
go to x50 fields (cf. Marc Authority docs mentioned above).
For a unified search you'd like to have I think at least
Invenio 1.2 (current head master, if Tibor managed to merge
authority based searches yet).
Is that what "collections" are about?
Nope. What's closest to the thing you look for might be
knowledge bases but I think for a vocabulary you'd wish to
go for Marc Authority based structures.
Collections are actually used to sort records in the
display.
- cope with media that consists of several files (e.g.
audio book chapters)
Several files is not that much an issue as you can just
add a bunch to any dataset. You can repeat the special
fft-tag in your MarcXML and upload them in one go eg.
Ah, yes, saw that. And since I’ll generate MarcXML myself,
it’s not an issue.
Right. But keep an eye on the fields of fft and you might
also have the case of restrictions to files you can pass on
in r subfield as firerules.
--
Kind regards,
Alexander Wagner
Subject Specialist
Central Library
52425 Juelich
mail : [email protected]
phone: +49 2461 61-1586
Fax : +49 2461 61-6103
www.fz-juelich.de/zb/DE/zb-fi
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