Adam Kowalczyk wrote:
> Michael Vincent van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
>> Matthew Wilson wrote:
>>  
>>> Just noticed that the following bug has been fixed:
>>>
>>> "Extension updates should link to further information"
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297903
>>>
>>> Mockup UI for the bug:
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=277934
>>>
>>> Looks interesting for extension developers for FF3.
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>>     

Interesting, but I didn't get this in the newsgroup until now, after 6 
or 7 hours, but you'll find my reply to Adam per e-mail below:

Hi Adam,

First of all, I don't see your reply in the newsgroup thus I reply 
directly to you per e-mail.

>> What is so interesting?  Everything should go into one shitty tiny
>> little extension manager, which is everything but a browser window? 
>> What about just adding a link instead, if that's not enough... well 
>> nothing is.  Also, the average Mozilla Firefox user gives a peep about 
>> this kind of bloat, because that's what it is.
>>   
> 
> Why are you so negative? 

That's fair criticism, really.  For example: You install add-on X but 
won't get to see a list with features when you install this add-on, and 
thus will have to *rely on visiting a website*.  Tell me, what is the 
logic here?

> What exactly is "shitty" about the extension 
> manager? I don't think this kind of rhetoric is very helpful. 

Please, don't take things literally and tear the real issue apart from 
it!  What I meant to say, and that should have been clear to you, is 
that *it isn't a browser window*.

The EM only has a really *small window* for this kind of info, but what 
if I need screen shots to make things clear?

Also, nobody should ever force you to step back in 1985 stylish ways. 
Just load the page in a tab, and close it after reading it.  Easy done. 
We do that for years already.

> I don't 
> see how this news isn't "interesting" either, because it's certainly 
> something that impacts extension authors.

Impact isn't always a good thing, the latest changes for updates which 
enforces people to set prefs or hack updates.rdf and what not is such an 
example.  Why?  Because mossup worked on this bug instead of fixing the 
darn documentation and writing the tools we need to support this new 
feature.  Now is that fair, to let people wait any longer?

> Anyway, I reckon it's a good idea. I think we can all agree that there's 
> been a need to have a way to learn more about the new versions when 
> updating. Many times I would go to AMO or to the extension's homepage 
> and manually look for the changelog. As for displaying the information 
> inline in the EM, I wouldn't call that bloat. 

Sorry, but it _is_ bloat.  That's not what the EM is for.  Providing a 
light weight URL is far better.

> Providing the user with a 
> link is a lighter alternative but it's also less convenient. You have to 
> open the page, leave the EM, close the tab once you're done and bring 
> the EM back up.  

Oh, so clicking a simple link is less convenient?  Something people do 
that all day long, yet it is less convenient?  Wait, you'll have less 
space and have to click to read this in this little browser part of the 
EM, right.  Now that's convenient, not so IMHO.

> The markup is going to be sanitized and limited to just 
> a couple of the basic tags (<h1>, <ul>, <b> etc.) and it seems to fit 
> quite well, even in the "tiny little" EM window.

Oh, more limitations for add-on authors.  Less is good, right?  Gone 
with your screen shots et all.  Now that's convenient, right?

You sir are obviously missing a great part of the message, as in how do 
you get people to YOUR website now?  That is far more important to many 
people!

I may sound harsh, but really, that's not my intention. English is just 
not my mothers tong and that makes it a little harder to express myself 
more clearly. Thank you for your understanding.

Kind regards,
Michael

> Cheers,
> Adam


-- 
Michael Vincent van Rantwijk
- MultiZilla Project Team Lead
- XUL Boot Camp Staff member (ActiveState Training Partner)
- iPhone Application Developer

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