Thanks for your email.
You say “such as sand, snow, or grass”.
I doubt that there is any deformable tire model in the world that will allow 
you to gauge its interplay with grass. Snow is hard too, but more plausible.
Sand is possible in Chrono, as are other homogenized terrain types, e.g., silt, 
clay. You’ll need reasonable material properties to capture these soil types. 
This is not trivial.
That being said, in many cases, for off-road mobility one can do ok with rigid 
wheels. The wheels can have features (lugs, tread pattern, etc.) – the sim is 
much faster in that case (compared to deformable tires).

We’ll send you in this thread an example of how to combine deformable terrain 
(CRM-based) and vehicle dynamics, when the vehicle uses deformable tires. The 
tires are modeled using ANCF shell elements. This relies on GPU computing, you 
will need an NVIDIA GPU to run the sim.
Hopefully that’ll happen early next week.
Dan
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Of juju
Sent: Friday, August 1, 2025 8:05 AM
To: ProjectChrono <projectchrono@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [chrono] HMMWV with ANCF tire


Hello,

I would like to study the interactions between a tire and various terrain 
obstacles while the vehicle is in motion. I saw that several tire models are 
available, such as TMeasy, Pacejka02, ANCF, and Reissner.

According to the documentation, force-based tire models (e.g., Pac02, TMeasy) 
cannot be used with soft obstacles or deformable terrain (such as sand, snow, 
or grass). On the other hand, the ANCF tire model is specifically designed to 
accurately capture soil–tire interactions.

Therefore, for my use case, the ANCF tire model seems to be the most 
appropriate choice.

I tried using it with the demo script demo_VEH_SCMTerrain_WheeledVehicle.cpp, 
but after just a few milliseconds of simulation, the tire explodes, and the 
simulation is extremely slow (even with SetNumThreads set to the maximum number 
of available threads).

I’m wondering if anyone has successfully run the ANCF tire model with the HMMWV 
(or other vehicles) in a simulation that utilizes hardware resources 
efficiently (CPU, GPU, etc.).

Thank you for your help! 😊

Le jeudi 31 juillet 2025 à 19:43:55 UTC+2, Dan Negrut a écrit :
Hi there - can you please describe what you try to accomplish?
We might be able to help with the ANCF tire model, but before that, please tell 
us what you want to accomplish since there might be easier paths forward. ANCF 
is heavy duty.
Dan
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NVIDIA CUDA Fellow
Department of Mechanical Engineering
Department of Computer Science
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From: projec...@googlegroups.com <projec...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of juju
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 11:41 AM
To: ProjectChrono <projec...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [chrono] HMMWV with ANCF tire


Good morning,

I am a PhD student working on off-road vehicle navigation, and I found 
ProjectChrono very interesting for testing my algorithms.

I would like to use the HMMWV vehicle with ANCF tires for more realistic 
behavior. However, when I run the demo script 
demo_VEH_SCMTerrain_WheeledVehicle.cpp with TireType::FEA, the simulation 
becomes unstable and extremely slow. It runs fine with other tire types.

Does anyone have a demo script using HMMWV with ANCF tires that is both stable 
and performs well (accelerated and reliable)?

Thank you very much!
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