The whole problem with PP right now is that its ALL 3rd party code because the person who wrote it is nowhere around and would not help or explain anything if we asked.
At least if PP was written in some framework we could ask for help in the irc rooms/mailing lists/forums of the framework and get advice. Right now it runs on a particularly complicated and unsuccessfully documented framework that even Illija the original author isn't using (he rewrote it all for aC 1.0). Of course regardless of the framework, PP does run right now, unlike a rewrite, so i don't have an opinion on whether to rewrite (i'm also just a spectator ;) jer On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Andy Postnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IMO current PP framework is good but need more flexibility in > themization and event|hook|plugin area > > Using of CI ZF or any will gear you 3rd party code and as result work > breakdown! > > 2008/7/29 Alex Mayhew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> I'd just like to clarify on what I said yesterday - What I meant to say was >> that I don't think CodeIgniter is suitable for this project without a lot of >> modifications. >> Also, I realised that this - >> >> I also don't think we should use CodeIgniter because EE will be using >> it. >> >> may sound ambiguous. What I meant was, I don't think we should use >> CodeIgniter "because EE 2.0 uses it", imo we should make PP a standalone >> app. >> >> Today I've been looking at the CodeIgniter & Kohana source code in more >> depth, and I've realised it's going to take a heck of a lot of time just to >> get to where these frameworks are now. It may be a better idea to use an >> existing framework after all. >> >> Alex >> >> George McGinley Smith wrote: >> >> What's wrong with CI for PP? It's a solid actively developed MVC framework. >> What are your reservations? >> >> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Alex Mayhew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Ryan's just reminded me of a post he made a while ago about PP's roadmap >>> >>> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=e4be0af40806120904g31798797g7358dd3a0a60f57b%40mail.gmail.com&forum_name=projectpier-development >>> >>> He's set a lot of good targets in that email, however I feel that it >>> might be easier for us to rewrite the core and complete the targets as >>> we go along instead of hacking the current core. >>> >>> @George, I think it'd be better if we made our own framework for PP, >>> instead of marketing it as a 'CodeIgniter based app / EE addon'. >>> CodeIgniter is a good framework, however it's not really suitable for PP >>> imo. >>> >>> >>> > The fact that this is aC plus the bug fixes and enhancements was what >>> > made me want to use it. It is a simple and effective manager, easy to >>> > use and really gets the job done, I would add a few little extras, >>> > like some already mentioned on the forums and this list, but would >>> > keep the thing that made aC a great software, it's simplicity. >>> > >>> I'm sure that everyone who uses PP agrees with you on this point. >>> > What would this rewrite bring us? Or better yet, in what way would >>> > this rewrite be done, what are the main focus of the work? Will >>> > compatibility with aC's database be kept or any conversion tool be >>> > added? >>> > >>> The main aim of the rewrite would be to refactor and improve the >>> codebase, as well as including some needed / highly requested features >>> > My fear is that the software I started to use, and have been >>> > recommending, will be dropped, and no upgrade will be possible. >>> > >>> It would be crazy if an upgrade path for the 0.8.* version was not >>> created :P >>> > Like Timothée said, it's important to know where the project's going >>> > and what will happen to the current version and all it's users >>> > >>> > That said, and having looked at the current code, bugs count and type, >>> > I'm all for a rewrite. >>> > >>> :) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Usually something witty would go here, but as I'm the sort of guy who >>> doesn't have a catch phrase I'm afraid this is nothing but more than >>> ultra boring rubbish - which you've been suckered into reading :P >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1574 - Release Date: 25/07/2008 >>> 16:27 >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >>> challenge >>> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >>> prizes >>> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >>> world >>> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Projectpier-development mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/projectpier-development >> >> >> >> -- >> Kind regards, >> >> George McGinley Smith >> >> http://gsgd.co.uk >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1576 - Release Date: 27/07/2008 >> 16:16 >> >> >> ________________________________ >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >> prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> >> ________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Projectpier-development mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/projectpier-development >> >> >> -- >> Usually something witty would go here, but as I'm the sort of guy who >> doesn't have a catch phrase I'm afraid this is nothing but more than ultra >> boring rubbish - which you've been suckered into reading :P >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1576 - Release Date: 27/07/2008 >> 16:16 >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >> prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Projectpier-development mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/projectpier-development >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Projectpier-development mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/projectpier-development > -- Jeremy Clarke Code and Design | globalvoicesonline.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ Projectpier-development mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/projectpier-development
