nah ini baru bener Fiq, nggak pengecut, sampai sampai ngelibatin orang yang nggak pernah muncul dan nulis disini...
dibaca nya juga rada enakan.... --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote: > > > > Kasihan saya melihat ada orang yang sedungu dan sebusuk "arra_s" ini > otaknya... > > Omong kosong johny-indon yang berotak bonsai yang udah busuk dilahapnya > begitu aja... > > > > --- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > apanya yg salah Fiq? > > emangnya kamu ngga dapat tunjangan? > > atau besar nya yg salah? bukan 700 euro? jadi nya berapa? > > ngomong dong, jangan main nyalah nyalahin saja.... > > > > masih untung saya ngga ungkit ungkit semua isi tulisan mu, yg sangat > > pengecut, sampai sampai melibatkan orang yg tidak pernah muncul disini.... > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketangkap basah unjuk otaknya yang sudah dirusak oleh agama najis Islam > > > hingga jadi, by a manner of speaking, jadi sekecil otak anjing, "arra_s" > > > pun kaing-kaing kayak anjing yang kejepit buntutnya dan bukannnya > > > mengakui kesalahannnya.. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > fiq, lagi berpantun ria yah, banyak bener pake " duh... duh..." nya. > > > > ato lagi kejepit?? > > > > mending kluarin pantun lamo nyo... > > > > > > > > Rang taratak pambuek kapa > > > > Mamakai pancang kayu kamper > > > > Lah sajak tingga di eropa > > > > Tantu lah batuka randang jo burger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bak anjing budug lapar melihat seongghok taik angat "arra_s" yang > > > > > berotak anjing itu bergegas saja melahap omong kosong johny-indon > > > > > yang berotak kerdil seumpama bonsai, akibat didikan bapaknya yang > > > > > yang adalah serdadu yang diajar buat membunuh manusia dan yang duh > > > > > kejamnya, duh buasnya, duh zalimnya, duh ganasnya dan duh biadabnya > > > > > hingga tu bangsat serdadu tega-teganya memperlakukan johny-indon, > > > > > anaknya sendiri, kayak anjing budug yang ditendangnya hingga > > > > > terkencing-kencing.. > > > > > > > > > > Dan sejak itu otak johny-indo tidak berkembang lagi dan malah jadi > > > > > busuk, nistfa lagi menjijikkan... > > > > > > > > > > Dan kerjanya di mailing list ini juga terutama pamer isi otaknya yang > > > > > sudah rusak dan jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan itu. > > > > > > > > > > Kasihan saya melihat ada orang yang sedungu "arra_s" yang bersedia > > > > > melahap omong kosong johny-indon yang berotak bonsai yang ssudah > > > > > jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan itu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 700 euro, dipotong sewa apartment, living cost, internetan 24 jam, > > > > > > habis deh ngga ada sisa nya... pantesan bawaan nya marah melulu.... > > > > > > > > > > > > kalau pulang kampung, bisa ngajar bahasa belanda Fiq, lumayan bisa > > > > > > bersosialisasi lagi daripada melotot ke monitor terus.. > > > > > > ngajar anak anak kuliahan. sekarang anak anak muda di minang sana > > > > > > cantik cantik dan ganteng2 loh, orang belanda ngga ada apa apa > > > > > > nya... > > > > > > siapa tahu bisa melet salah satu etek etek atau mak tuo yg single... > > > > > > hidup kudu ber variasi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "johny_indon" <johny_indon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kayaknya pengalaman pribadi ya. > > > > > > > si jusplik juga bangga bener jadi pengangguran di belanda dapet > > > > > > > tunjangan gembel > > > > > > > 700 euro sebulan. > > > > > > > heran, parasit koq bangga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Sunny" <ambon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tiap orang pada umur pensiun mendapat basis demikian, kalau > > > > > > > > orang tua berdiam apartmen terpisah dari anak-anaknya dan > > > > > > > > bila uang pensiun tidak cukup sesuai perhitungan pihak > > > > > > > > jawatan sosial maka mereka diberi tunjangan perumahan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Teddy S. > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 11:27 PM > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Asylum seekers disappear in Indonesia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jadi biaya 600 Euro per orang ini diberikan per bulan? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" <ambon@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ada memang yang disebut pensiun rakyat (folk pension). > > > > > > > > > Pensiun ini diberikan kepada siapa saja yang mempunyai izin > > > > > > > > > tinggal, pernah kerja atau tidak pernah kerja selama berada > > > > > > > > > di Swedia. Jadi sebahagian dari pencari suaka yang lincah, > > > > > > > > > setelah mereka diterima menjadi penduduk, mereka memanggil > > > > > > > > > orang tua mereka untuk hidup bersama. Orang tua ini kalau > > > > > > > > > sudah diatas umur 68 diberikan pensiun rakyat, kalau tak > > > > > > > > > salah kurang lebih 600,âÂ" euro per orang, jadi kalau ibu > > > > > > > > > dan bapak berarti mereka menerima pensiun 1.200 euro. > > > > > > > > > Apartmen yang diberikan kepada penerima suka juga rumah > > > > > > > > > standar seperti yang dimiliki oleh oleh warga Swedia. Jadi > > > > > > > > > saya kira terjaminlah hidup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Teddy S. > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:13 PM > > > > > > > > > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Asylum seekers disappear in Indonesia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seperti pernah saya tulis. Negara-negara kaya Arab tersebut > > > > > > > > > hanya memberikan fasilitas bagi warganegaranya sendiri saja. > > > > > > > > > Jadi warganegara mereka hanya dimungkinkan lewat adanya > > > > > > > > > perkawinan. Itu sebabnya sang pribumi Arab banyak yang jadi > > > > > > > > > malas karena dapat banyak fasilitas dan masih banyak buruh > > > > > > > > > migran yang mau datang untuk melakukan segala macam > > > > > > > > > pekerjaan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jadi ingat saat dulu di Reading, Berkshire, England, > > > > > > > > > pertengahan tahun 1980-an. Ada orang Arab yang selama > > > > > > > > > seminggu kagak pernah nongol di tempat pelatihan DEC terbesar > > > > > > > > > Eropa saat itu. Dia cuma nongol di hari terakhir untuk ambil > > > > > > > > > sertifikat saja. Hidupnya memang terlihat nyaman dan > > > > > > > > > pakaiannya demikian mewah saat itu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Disamping itu Australia memberikan peluang yang sama bagi > > > > > > > > > pria dan wanita yang mana tidak berlaku di negara-negara Arab. > > > > > > > > > Kalau dalam masalah fasilitas bagi warga, kemungkinan lebih > > > > > > > > > baik di negara-negara Arab kaya tersebut. Teman saya yang > > > > > > > > > bekerja di Qatar tidak kena pajak disamping juga pendapatan > > > > > > > > > tambahan lewat main sahamnya juga tidak kena pajak. > > > > > > > > > Sebaliknya pajak di Australia sanagt tinggi, lebih tinggi > > > > > > > > > dari AS, tapi juga dapat pelayanan kesehatan yang lebih baik. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saya yakin Swedia memberikan fasilitas yang lebih baik bagi > > > > > > > > > warganya ketimbang Australia karena sampai-sampai ada usulan > > > > > > > > > usia pensiunnya jadi 75 tahun dengan menciutnya dana yang > > > > > > > > > tersedia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" <ambon@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalau ke Arab Saudia atau negeri teluk mungkin dapat lebih > > > > > > > > > > dari A$ 10.000,âÃÂ", tetapi mengapa mereka tidak mau > > > > > > > > > > kesana dan harus jauh-jauh penuh bahaya dalam perjalanan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Teddy S. > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 3:42 PM > > > > > > > > > > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Asylum seekers disappear in > > > > > > > > > > Indonesia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wong orang-orangnya pada ogah dapat perlindungan dari > > > > > > > > > > Indonesia. > > > > > > > > > > Bikin para pembayar pajak geleng-geleng kepala saat mereka > > > > > > > > > > dapat paket senilai A$ 10 000 per keluarga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/asylum-seekers-made-to-feel-at-home-thanks-to-a-10000-welcome-pack/story-fn7x8me2-1226273251317 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bilangnya: > > > > > > > > > > "They are basic supplies. We are not talking about luxury > > > > > > > > > > here," the Red Cross's spokesman, Michael Raper, said. > > > > > > > > > > Tapi, sebagian barang-barang tersebut bisa masuk kategori > > > > > > > > > > mewah di Indonesia dengan mobil merk Toyota saja diributkan > > > > > > > > > > sebagai mobil mewah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" <ambon@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Refl: Pemerintah dan rakyat NKRI yang seagama dengan > > > > > > > > > > > pencari suaka seharusnya memberi perlindungan kepada > > > > > > > > > > > mereka dari pada dikirim ke negeri yang disebut kafir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂhttp://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/asylum-seekers-disappear-in-indonesia/story-e6frf7jx-1226326687767?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HeraldSunNewsBreaking+%28Herald+Sun+|+Breaking+News%29 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asylum seekers disappear in Indonesia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: AFP > > > > > > > > > > > April 14, 2012 9:52PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > INDONESIAN authorities say they have found a boat > > > > > > > > > > > reported missing en route to Australia and that the > > > > > > > > > > > dozens of asylum seekers it was carrying are believed to > > > > > > > > > > > have fled. > > > > > > > > > > > Sign up for your free 2 month trial > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Authorities had been searching for the boat since the > > > > > > > > > > > mostly Afghan asylum seekers on board made a distress > > > > > > > > > > > call to Australia on Wednesday, saying they were in rough > > > > > > > > > > > seas and their boat was sinking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Refugee advocates who said 60 asylum seekers were on > > > > > > > > > > > board alerted Australian authorities, who passed on the > > > > > > > > > > > information to Indonesian officials. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indonesian authorities said they had located the missing > > > > > > > > > > > vessel late on Friday on Lombok island, which lies just > > > > > > > > > > > east of the popular resort island of Bali, although > > > > > > > > > > > residents said they spotted the asylum seekers on > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "People in Lombok informed us that they saw the boat > > > > > > > > > > > arrive on the shore on Wednesday, and that people came > > > > > > > > > > > ashore and ran off," Nanang Sigit, a search and rescue > > > > > > > > > > > official in West Nusa Tenggara province said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "We were not alerted immediately, so we only found the > > > > > > > > > > > boat Friday night. We're now working with police and are > > > > > > > > > > > conducting a search on the island." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mataram city search and rescue chief Marsudi said some > > > > > > > > > > > residents reported spotting the asylum seekers in a > > > > > > > > > > > forest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Some members of the community reported that they saw > > > > > > > > > > > foreigners in the jungle around 10 kilometres from the > > > > > > > > > > > beach where the boat was spotted," Marsudi said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ian Rintoul of Brisbane-based Refugee Action Network said > > > > > > > > > > > he believed the vessel has still been at sea as late as > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, when he last spoke to the asylum seekers via > > > > > > > > > > > mobile phone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "If they found a boat on the island Wednesday, then it's > > > > > > > > > > > not the right boat," he said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "When I spoke to them last, I could hear the wind and > > > > > > > > > > > water in the background. They said the boat had taken a > > > > > > > > > > > lot of water." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indonesian officials said they were calling off the > > > > > > > > > > > search for the vessel, apparently satisfied they had > > > > > > > > > > > found the right boat, based on residents' reports that > > > > > > > > > > > more than 50 people of Afghan appearance got off the boat > > > > > > > > > > > and ran. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An AFP correspondent saw the boat on Bumbangku beach in > > > > > > > > > > > southern Lombok, saying the 10-metre long wooden vessel > > > > > > > > > > > had a fine crack about seven metres long along its floor, > > > > > > > > > > > and that water had seeped through. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The boat was full of empty instant noodle packets and > > > > > > > > > > > water bottles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Each year thousands of refugees - many in recent months > > > > > > > > > > > from Afghanistan - try to make the perilous journey > > > > > > > > > > > through Indonesian waters in hopes of seeking asylum in > > > > > > > > > > > Australia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Asylum seekers coming to Australia by boat face very > > > > > > > > > > > real risks and we need to work together now to prevent > > > > > > > > > > > another tragedy from occurring," Australian Immigration > > > > > > > > > > > Minister Chris Bowen said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many of the overloaded and rickety boats used by people > > > > > > > > > > > smugglers for the journey do not make it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last week, a Singapore-registered tanker rescued around > > > > > > > > > > > 120 Australia-bound asylum seekers - all men and mostly > > > > > > > > > > > Afghans and some Iranians - from their sinking wooden > > > > > > > > > > > boat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They finally disembarked in Indonesia after refusing to > > > > > > > > > > > get off the docked tanker for two days, insisting they be > > > > > > > > > > > allowed to continue their journey to Australia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In December, a boat carrying around 250 mostly Afghan and > > > > > > > > > > > Iranian asylum seekers sank in Indonesian waters on its > > > > > > > > > > > way to Christmas Island, with only 47 surviving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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