Saya kira sangat bagus bila diambil sebagai contoh pensiunan ini untuk diterapkan pada anggota masyarakat Indonesia di Indonesia agar ada kehidupan mamada bagi sesama warga.
From: arra_s Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [proletar] Re: Asylum seekers disappear in Indonesia 700 euro, dipotong sewa apartment, living cost, internetan 24 jam, habis deh ngga ada sisa nya... pantesan bawaan nya marah melulu.... kalau pulang kampung, bisa ngajar bahasa belanda Fiq, lumayan bisa bersosialisasi lagi daripada melotot ke monitor terus.. ngajar anak anak kuliahan. sekarang anak anak muda di minang sana cantik cantik dan ganteng2 loh, orang belanda ngga ada apa apa nya... siapa tahu bisa melet salah satu etek etek atau mak tuo yg single... hidup kudu ber variasi --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "johny_indon" <johny_indon@...> wrote: > > kayaknya pengalaman pribadi ya. > si jusplik juga bangga bener jadi pengangguran di belanda dapet > tunjangan gembel > 700 euro sebulan. > heran, parasit koq bangga. > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" <ambon@> wrote: > > > > Tiap orang pada umur pensiun mendapat basis demikian, kalau orang tua > > berdiam apartmen terpisah dari anak-anaknya dan bila uang pensiun > > tidak cukup sesuai perhitungan pihak jawatan sosial maka mereka diberi > > tunjangan perumahan. > > > > > > From: Teddy S. > > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 11:27 PM > > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Asylum seekers disappear in Indonesia > > > > > > Jadi biaya 600 Euro per orang ini diberikan per bulan? > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" <ambon@> wrote: > > > > > > Ada memang yang disebut pensiun rakyat (folk pension). Pensiun ini > > > diberikan kepada siapa saja yang mempunyai izin tinggal, pernah > > > kerja atau tidak pernah kerja selama berada di Swedia. Jadi > > > sebahagian dari pencari suaka yang lincah, setelah mereka diterima > > > menjadi penduduk, mereka memanggil orang tua mereka untuk hidup > > > bersama. Orang tua ini kalau sudah diatas umur 68 diberikan pensiun > > > rakyat, kalau tak salah kurang lebih 600,âÂ" euro per orang, jadi > > > kalau ibu dan bapak berarti mereka menerima pensiun 1.200 euro. > > > Apartmen yang diberikan kepada penerima suka juga rumah standar > > > seperti yang dimiliki oleh oleh warga Swedia. Jadi saya kira > > > terjaminlah hidup. > > > > > > From: Teddy S. > > > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:13 PM > > > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Asylum seekers disappear in Indonesia > > > > > > > > > Seperti pernah saya tulis. Negara-negara kaya Arab tersebut hanya > > > memberikan fasilitas bagi warganegaranya sendiri saja. Jadi > > > warganegara mereka hanya dimungkinkan lewat adanya perkawinan. Itu > > > sebabnya sang pribumi Arab banyak yang jadi malas karena dapat > > > banyak fasilitas dan masih banyak buruh migran yang mau datang untuk > > > melakukan segala macam pekerjaan. > > > > > > Jadi ingat saat dulu di Reading, Berkshire, England, pertengahan > > > tahun 1980-an. Ada orang Arab yang selama seminggu kagak pernah > > > nongol di tempat pelatihan DEC terbesar Eropa saat itu. Dia cuma > > > nongol di hari terakhir untuk ambil sertifikat saja. Hidupnya memang > > > terlihat nyaman dan pakaiannya demikian mewah saat itu. > > > > > > Disamping itu Australia memberikan peluang yang sama bagi pria dan > > > wanita yang mana tidak berlaku di negara-negara Arab. > > > Kalau dalam masalah fasilitas bagi warga, kemungkinan lebih baik di > > > negara-negara Arab kaya tersebut. Teman saya yang bekerja di Qatar > > > tidak kena pajak disamping juga pendapatan tambahan lewat main > > > sahamnya juga tidak kena pajak. Sebaliknya pajak di Australia sanagt > > > tinggi, lebih tinggi dari AS, tapi juga dapat pelayanan kesehatan > > > yang lebih baik. > > > > > > Saya yakin Swedia memberikan fasilitas yang lebih baik bagi warganya > > > ketimbang Australia karena sampai-sampai ada usulan usia pensiunnya > > > jadi 75 tahun dengan menciutnya dana yang tersedia. > > > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" <ambon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Kalau ke Arab Saudia atau negeri teluk mungkin dapat lebih dari A$ > > > > 10.000,âÃÂ", tetapi mengapa mereka tidak mau kesana dan harus > > > > jauh-jauh penuh bahaya dalam perjalanan. > > > > > > > > From: Teddy S. > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 3:42 PM > > > > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Asylum seekers disappear in Indonesia > > > > > > > > > > > > Wong orang-orangnya pada ogah dapat perlindungan dari Indonesia. > > > > Bikin para pembayar pajak geleng-geleng kepala saat mereka dapat > > > > paket senilai A$ 10 000 per keluarga. > > > > > > > > http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/asylum-seekers-made-to-feel-at-home-thanks-to-a-10000-welcome-pack/story-fn7x8me2-1226273251317 > > > > > > > > Bilangnya: > > > > "They are basic supplies. We are not talking about luxury here," > > > > the Red Cross's spokesman, Michael Raper, said. > > > > Tapi, sebagian barang-barang tersebut bisa masuk kategori mewah di > > > > Indonesia dengan mobil merk Toyota saja diributkan sebagai mobil > > > > mewah. > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" <ambon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Refl: Pemerintah dan rakyat NKRI yang seagama dengan pencari > > > > > suaka seharusnya memberi perlindungan kepada mereka dari pada > > > > > dikirim ke negeri yang disebut kafir. > > > > > > > > > > ÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂâÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂhttp://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/asylum-seekers-disappear-in-indonesia/story-e6frf7jx-1226326687767?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HeraldSunNewsBreaking+%28Herald+Sun+|+Breaking+News%29 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asylum seekers disappear in Indonesia > > > > > > > > > > From: AFP > > > > > April 14, 2012 9:52PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > INDONESIAN authorities say they have found a boat reported > > > > > missing en route to Australia and that the dozens of asylum > > > > > seekers it was carrying are believed to have fled. > > > > > Sign up for your free 2 month trial > > > > > > > > > > Authorities had been searching for the boat since the mostly > > > > > Afghan asylum seekers on board made a distress call to Australia > > > > > on Wednesday, saying they were in rough seas and their boat was > > > > > sinking. > > > > > > > > > > Refugee advocates who said 60 asylum seekers were on board > > > > > alerted Australian authorities, who passed on the information to > > > > > Indonesian officials. > > > > > > > > > > Indonesian authorities said they had located the missing vessel > > > > > late on Friday on Lombok island, which lies just east of the > > > > > popular resort island of Bali, although residents said they > > > > > spotted the asylum seekers on Wednesday. > > > > > > > > > > "People in Lombok informed us that they saw the boat arrive on > > > > > the shore on Wednesday, and that people came ashore and ran > > > > > off," Nanang Sigit, a search and rescue official in West Nusa > > > > > Tenggara province said. > > > > > > > > > > "We were not alerted immediately, so we only found the boat > > > > > Friday night. We're now working with police and are conducting a > > > > > search on the island." > > > > > > > > > > Mataram city search and rescue chief Marsudi said some residents > > > > > reported spotting the asylum seekers in a forest. > > > > > > > > > > "Some members of the community reported that they saw foreigners > > > > > in the jungle around 10 kilometres from the beach where the boat > > > > > was spotted," Marsudi said. > > > > > > > > > > Ian Rintoul of Brisbane-based Refugee Action Network said he > > > > > believed the vessel has still been at sea as late as Friday, > > > > > when he last spoke to the asylum seekers via mobile phone. > > > > > > > > > > "If they found a boat on the island Wednesday, then it's not the > > > > > right boat," he said. > > > > > > > > > > "When I spoke to them last, I could hear the wind and water in > > > > > the background. They said the boat had taken a lot of water." > > > > > > > > > > Indonesian officials said they were calling off the search for > > > > > the vessel, apparently satisfied they had found the right boat, > > > > > based on residents' reports that more than 50 people of Afghan > > > > > appearance got off the boat and ran. > > > > > > > > > > An AFP correspondent saw the boat on Bumbangku beach in southern > > > > > Lombok, saying the 10-metre long wooden vessel had a fine crack > > > > > about seven metres long along its floor, and that water had > > > > > seeped through. > > > > > > > > > > The boat was full of empty instant noodle packets and water > > > > > bottles. > > > > > > > > > > Each year thousands of refugees - many in recent months from > > > > > Afghanistan - try to make the perilous journey through > > > > > Indonesian waters in hopes of seeking asylum in Australia. > > > > > > > > > > "Asylum seekers coming to Australia by boat face very real risks > > > > > and we need to work together now to prevent another tragedy from > > > > > occurring," Australian Immigration Minister Chris Bowen said. > > > > > > > > > > Many of the overloaded and rickety boats used by people > > > > > smugglers for the journey do not make it. > > > > > > > > > > Last week, a Singapore-registered tanker rescued around 120 > > > > > Australia-bound asylum seekers - all men and mostly Afghans and > > > > > some Iranians - from their sinking wooden boat. > > > > > > > > > > They finally disembarked in Indonesia after refusing to get off > > > > > the docked tanker for two days, insisting they be allowed to > > > > > continue their journey to Australia. > > > > > > > > > > In December, a boat carrying around 250 mostly Afghan and > > > > > Iranian asylum seekers sank in Indonesian waters on its way to > > > > > Christmas Island, with only 47 surviving > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. 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