dipukul artinya 1X saja. Tak ada larangan tapi sudah ada perintah ! Yang 
artinya sekali saja. Maka artinya lebih jauh menyiksa tidak boleh.

--- On Fri, 25/5/12, item abu <[email protected]> wrote:

From: item abu <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [proletar] Warga Inggris yang Jual Janin di Thailand Ditangkap
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Received: Friday, 25 May, 2012, 10:59 PM








 



  


    
      
      
      auloh bilang, kalo bini dicurigai ga patuh, maka boleh dipukul. Ga ada 
tuh larangan unt mukulin terus menerus.



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> From: Abbas Amin <[email protected]>

>To: [email protected] 

>Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 5:56 AM

>Subject: Re: [proletar] Warga Inggris yang Jual Janin di Thailand Ditangkap

> 

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>Gak boleh ! gak boleh digebukin ! itu melaanggar namaanya

>

>--- On Fri, 25/5/12, item abu <[email protected]> wrote:

>

>From: item abu <[email protected]>

>Subject: Re: [proletar] Warga Inggris yang Jual Janin di Thailand Ditangkap

>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>

>Received: Friday, 25 May, 2012, 9:40 PM

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>Jadi bini kalo dianggap ga patuh, boleh digebukin. Kalo lakinya ga beres, ga 
>ada hukuman apa2. 

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>Itulah hukum Islam yg katanya adil, hehehe...

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>Dan ga ada seekor muslim di milis yg merasa ga adil dgn hukum Islam itu, 
>hehehe...

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>> From: Abbas Amin <[email protected]>

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>>To: [email protected] 

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>>Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 6:28 AM

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>>bukan menganiaya tapi melaksanakan hukuman.

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>>Nanti kamu akaan ngomong hak anak gimana ? haarusnya kalau bapak dan emak 
>>salah; lantas digebukin sama anak ?

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>>bukan keadilan lagi yang didapat tapi Pikiran NGACO; yang hanya dihati mu itu 
>>ingin mendeskreditkan ISLAM !

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>>Ngritik Islam dengan penuh rasio, bisa gak sih ? Gak usah pake ekstrim 
>>ngomongnya sadis ?

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>>Kan kalau memang ada itikad baik; kamu bisa ngomong yang santun bukan ? Kita 
>>bisa berdiskusi dengan penuh saling harga menghaargai ! Tapi cara kamu 
>>berdiskusi selama ini; bukan demikian tapi menunjukkan kebencian ! sehingga 
>>menimbulkan permusuhan !

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>>--- On Thu, 24/5/12, item abu <[email protected]> wrote:

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>>From: item abu <[email protected]>

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>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Warga Inggris yang Jual Janin di Thailand Ditangkap

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>>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>

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>>Received: Thursday, 24 May, 2012, 7:39 PM

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>>Hehehe... hukum itu bunyinya bini digebukin kalo dianggap ga patuh. Ga ada 
>>hukum yg bilang suami digebukin bini kalo dianggap ga patuh.

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>>Jadi jelas, baik nurut hukum Islam maupun nurut logika Islami, cowok itu 
>>selalu yg ngegebukin bininya, ga bisa bininya yg ngegebukin lakinya. Biarpun 
>>misalnya ada cewek yg ngegebukin lakinya, maka si cewek itu melanggar hukum 
>>Islam, sementara ga masalah kalo laki ngegebukin bininya krn biniya dianggap 
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>>Itu adil kata orang Islam, hehehe...

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>>Jadi yg kuat hrs yg nganiaya yg lemah, suami yg ngegebukin bini. Atau orang 
>>kaya nindas orang miskin. Penguasa nindas rakyat.

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>>>Yang lebih pantas melakukan hukum adalah harus kuat itu jelas. Tapi kalau 
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>>>Jadi, cewek sbg yg lbh lemah boleh dipukulin lakinya yg lbh kuat, sebaliknya 
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>>>Hehehe... itulah hukum Islam yg "adil" nurut Abbas Amin. Yg lbh kuat berhak 
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