Hehehe.... debat Abbas Amin ini niru si john_indon yg make contoh mobil Toyota yg udah puluhan thn unt ngebuktikan merek Toyota itu bukan mobil mewah.
>________________________________ > From: Abbas Amin <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 8:37 PM >Subject: Re: [proletar] Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 > > > >Jadi menurut kamu pantas ibu dan bapak nyembah2 ke anak ? > >--- On Sat, 26/5/12, item abu <[email protected]> wrote: > >From: item abu <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [proletar] Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Received: Saturday, 26 May, 2012, 5:55 AM > > > >Jadi lu ga ngehormati yg lbh di bawah, dan yg di bawah lu itu yg wajib >ngehormati lu, hehehe... > >>________________________________ > >> From: Abbas Amin <[email protected]> > >>To: [email protected] > >>Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 7:31 AM > >>Subject: Re: [proletar] Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 > >> > >> > >> > >>Tatakrama dalam hubungan sosial adalaah menghormati yang lebih diatas; tapi >>bukaan UNTUK DIJILAT ! > >>Inilah DEBILNYA kamu ! > >>Coba sedikit kamu ikutin LOGIKA UMUM; atau LOGIKA itu adalah yang sudah jadi >>OPINI UMUM ! > >>Jangan sok DEBIL sendiri ! > >>Jadi tidak ada salahnya oraang menyebut kamu DEBIL ! Karena kelakuanmu atau >>CARA BERPIKIRMU yang DEBIL; taidak umum dengan yang laain. > >>Diluar dari pendapat UMUM. Mending kalau bagus ! Ini mah udah diluar opini >>masyarakaat; pendapat sendiri adalah bagaikan manusia yang terpencil dihutan >>lebat !!!! > >> > >>Makanya sekali item idiot abu; kamu tuh tetap saja abu idiot item. > >> > >>Coba bikin yang lain dari yang lain tuh kreatif dikit; bukan bertindak liar >>kaaya orang gila; yang tak ada guna dan manfaat sama sekali > >> > >>--- On Sat, 26/5/12, item abu <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>From: item abu <[email protected]> > >>Subject: Re: [proletar] Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 > >>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >>Received: Saturday, 26 May, 2012, 12:05 AM > >> > >> > >> > >>Hehehe... jelas tuh lu ngejilat pantat SBY dgn alasan dia pejabat. Pembantu >>lu pasti ga akan lu hormati krn dia lu anggap lebih rendah dr lu. Pembantu lu >>itu lu anggap lbh rendah dr SBY dan jg lebih rendah dr diri lu sendiri, bukan? > >> > >>>________________________________ > >> > >>> From: Abbas Amin <[email protected]> > >> > >>>To: [email protected] > >> > >>>Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:06 AM > >> > >>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>ya nggak sedebil itulah pengertiannya ! kalau tidak putih = HITAM ! > >> > >>>memang sekali item idiot abu; tetaplah abu idiot item ! > >> > >>> > >> > >>>--- On Fri, 25/5/12, item abu <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>>From: item abu <[email protected]> > >> > >>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 > >> > >>>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >> > >>>Received: Friday, 25 May, 2012, 9:45 PM > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>Jadi lu hormat ke SBY, tp lu ga hormat ke pembantu krn pembantu lu itu ada >>>di bawah lu, gitu kan? > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>________________________________ > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> From: Abbas Amin <[email protected]> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>To: [email protected] > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 6:37 AM > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>Walaupun aku tak kan nyembah sby; tapi aku hormati dia; setidaknyaa dia >>>>president NKRI. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>Kalau kau bergaul di masy. tanpa adat istiadaat; maka lebih cocok lah hidup >>>>sendiri di hutan. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>--- On Thu, 24/5/12, item abu <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>From: item abu <[email protected]> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>Received: Thursday, 24 May, 2012, 7:44 PM > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>Krn Abbas Amin anggap SBY lebih tinggi levelnya, maka Abbas Amin akan >>>>nyembah2 SBY sesuai dgn ocehannya sendiri di bawah ini. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>Gua ga pernah anggap bhw level gua lbh tinggi dr pembantu gua, yg gua tau >>>>cuma pembantu gua lbh tinggi levelnya dr SBY krn pembantu gua ga suka >>>>nyolong dan nindas orang. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>________________________________ > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> From: Abbas Amin <[email protected]> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>To: [email protected] > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:12 PM > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>Saya yakin tuh pembantu elo pasti lebih tinggi derajatnya dari pada elo >>>>>sendiri ! > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>Dia seneng pura2 jadi pembantu karena enak bisa dapet banyak DUIT dari >>>>>manusia DEBIL macam ELO ! Wah beruntung juga tuh pembantu ! Udah jadi >>>>>pembantu ! Disembah2 lebih dari paada sby terhormatnya ! > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>Benar2 satu diantara semilyar nih pembantu ! Ia pasti genius bekerja >>>>>dirumah manusia DEBIL. Jangan2 dia justru yang ngendaliin si itemidiotabu >>>>>ini ? > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>--- On Thu, 24/5/12, item abu <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>From: item abu <[email protected]> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>Received: Thursday, 24 May, 2012, 10:56 AM > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>Hehehe... baru aja si Abbas Amin kaing2 kalo koruptor ga ketangkep maka >>>>>dianggap orang sukses, tapi prinsip yg sama ternyata ga berlaku unt >>>>>pembantu gua. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>Harusnya kan sesuai dgn kaing2 Abbas Amin dan Teddy, pembantu gua yg ga >>>>>pernah ketangkep nyolong ini hrs dianggap sbg orang jujur yg lbh tinggi >>>>>levelnya dr SBY atau anggota DPR. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>Tp emang tuh, kaing2 dr bajingan itu ga berlaku unt dirinya sendiri. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>________________________________ > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> From: Abbas Amin <[email protected]> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>To: [email protected] > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:57 AM > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>Gak suka nyolong ? sudah ada buktinya ? Sulit luh membuktikaan hal >>>>>>demikian !? > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>Ngedengerin tuannya bicara saja kan nyuri denger !? > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>--- On Thu, 24/5/12, item abu <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>From: item abu <[email protected]> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>Received: Thursday, 24 May, 2012, 12:05 AM > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>Pembantu gua aja lebih tinggi derajatnya dr SBY, krn pembantu gua ga suka >>>>>>nyolong dan nindas kayak SBY. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>________________________________ > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> From: Abbas Amin <[email protected]> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>To: [email protected] > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:27 AM > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>Memang menurut kamu yang lebih tinggi levelnya dari president apa ? > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>Oooo yang ngasih ratusan juta pada yang gaak dikenal kali ye ? > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>itulah caara berpikir si debil. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>Makanya kuulang lagi sekali item idiot abu; maka tetap saja abu idiot >>>>>>>item > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>--- On Tue, 22/5/12, item abu <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>From: item abu <[email protected]> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>Received: Tuesday, 22 May, 2012, 8:48 PM > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>Tp lu anggap SBY itu levelnya tinggi, hehehe.... > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>Dan nurut si Teddy, lu ini ga boleh nuduh penguasa sbg mafia perampok, >>>>>>>krn belum terbukti bersalah. Lu hrs ngejilat pantat penguasa, tp soal >>>>>>>ini sdh lu lakukan. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>________________________________ > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> From: Abbas Amin <[email protected]> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>To: [email protected] > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:14 PM > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [proletar] Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Yang gemuk2 adalah Penguasa Negara; yaitu MAFIA perampok kekayaan >>>>>>>>Negara. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Dan itu didapat dari HUTANG LN; sedangkan seluruh rakyat yang sangt >>>>>>>>keremepeng2 harus menanggunbg beban hutang . Maka wajarlah kalau NKRI >>>>>>>>hutaangnya makin menggunung. Saat kita nulis entah berapa juta USD lagi >>>>>>>>tambahan hutang kita !? > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>--- On Wed, 23/5/12, Sunny <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>From: Sunny <[email protected]> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Subject: [proletar] Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>To: [email protected] > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Received: Wednesday, 23 May, 2012, 11:36 AM > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Ref: Saya kira kalau orang yang banyak hutangnya akan sulit bergerak >>>>>>>>leluasa semaunya, karena pendapatannya terbatas dan dikekam oleh hutang >>>>>>>>yang dipukul. Mungkin sekali masalahnya berlaku bagi negara yang banyak >>>>>>>>hutangnya, apalagi rezim berkuasanya terdiri dari kaum maling dan >>>>>>>>tukang copet, jadi kalau begitu misalnya penguasa rezim NKRI >>>>>>>>berkaok-kaok pembangunan, entah pembangunan apa, dimana dan untuk yang >>>>>>>>diperuntukan. Jelas halnya ialah para pemberi pinjaman akan menuntut >>>>>>>>fasilitas-fasilitas yang memberikan mereka posisi lebih kuat dari >>>>>>>>peminjam. Bukankah begitu situasinya? > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Bagaimana pendapat Anda tentang hutang yang bertumpuk-tumpuk ini? > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>http://www.harianterbit.com/artikel/fokus/artikel.php?aid=151069 > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000 > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Tanggal : 21 May 2012 > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Sumber : Harian Terbit > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>JAKARTA - Utang luar negeri terus menggunung lebih dari 200 miliar >>>>>>>>dolar Amerika Serikat. Anehnya, utang negara begitu gede, tetapi >>>>>>>>rakyatnya semakin miskin. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Pengamat ekonomi MRI Research M. Rizal Ismail, mengatakan kondisi utang >>>>>>>>luar negeri Indonesia sangat memprihatinkan kelangsungan bangsa >>>>>>>>Indonesia. Bahkan telah menunjukan pada titik rawan karena sudah >>>>>>>>tergantung kepada luar negeri. "Pemerintah dan Presiden SBY sudah >>>>>>>>mengeluarkan kebijakan yang salah dengan cara utang keluar negeri,"kata >>>>>>>>Rizal kepada Harian Terbit, Senin (21/5). > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Bahkan, katanya, pemerintah telah mengajarkan hidup konsumtif kepada >>>>>>>>rakyatnya de-ngan jalan-jalan keluar negeri atau selalu menawarkan >>>>>>>>produk luar negeri. Banyak barang-barang impor dari luar negeri masuk >>>>>>>>ke Indonesia. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>"Jika sudah banyak barang yang masuk, tentu saja menimbulkan keinginan >>>>>>>>masyarakat untuk berbelanja. Namun sayangnya, kemampuan rakyat untuk >>>>>>>>membeli barang-barang sangat minim, sehingga mengharuskan untuk utang. >>>>>>>>Utang rakyat makin menumpuk, utang pemerintah ke luar negeri pun >>>>>>>>semakin banyak," tegasnya. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Sayangnya lagi, menurut Rizal, utang luar negeri itu disinyalir >>>>>>>>dikorupsi oleh pejabat-pejabat negara lewat proyek APBN dan APBD. >>>>>>>>Sepertinya, para menteri-menteri yang sekarang merupakan titipan luar >>>>>>>>negeri, sehingga Indonesia telah dikendalikan oleh negara barat. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>"Rakyat saat ini merasa tidak mempunyai pemimpin. Mereka merasa hidup >>>>>>>>sendiri. Sengsara sendiri, semakin banyak yang miskin. Keinginan rakyat >>>>>>>>tak pernah dipenuhi oleh pemerintah dan bahkan para elit politik telah >>>>>>>>memperkaya diri sendiri, keluarganya dan kepentingan diri sendiri," >>>>>>>>ucapnya. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Pertumbuhan ekonomi > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Berdasarkan data Bank Indonesia (BI), katanya, pada 2006 total utang >>>>>>>>luar negeri Indonesia sebesar 132,63 miliar dolar AS. Sedangkan pada >>>>>>>>2011 telah menjadi 221,60 miliar dolar AS atau sekitar Rp2,2 biliun. >>>>>>>>Utang luar negeri pada 2011 didominasi oleh utang luar negeri dari >>>>>>>>pemerintah dan bank sentral yang berjumlah 119,56 miliar dolar AS. >>>>>>>>Sementara utang swasta sebesar 102,04 miliar dolar AS. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Menurutnya, besarnya jumlah utang pemerintah tersebut ternyata tidak >>>>>>>>menunjukkan korelasi signifikan terhadap kualitas pertumbuhan ekonomi. >>>>>>>>Indikatornnya ditunjukkan oleh perbaikan kualitas pelayanan dasar >>>>>>>>kepada masyarakat, seperti ketersediaan infrastruktur (energi dan >>>>>>>>transportasi), pendidikan maupun kesehatan. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Posisi Indeks Pembangunan Manusia (IPM) Indonesia masih juga lebih >>>>>>>>rendah dibanding Thailand dan Malaysia. Begitu juga dengan daya saing >>>>>>>>dan kemudahan melakukan usaha (doing business) yang juga masih lebih >>>>>>>>rendah dibanding negara-negara tersebut. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>"Salah satu penyebabnya, karena utang luar negeri Indonesia kebanyakan >>>>>>>>dipergunakan untuk sektor keuangan diban-ding untuk sektor ekonomi >>>>>>>>riil," tandasnya. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Sementara itu menurut anggota Komisi XI DPR Arif Budimanta kebijakan >>>>>>>>utang luar negeri pemerintah saat ini dinilai dalam posisi rawan. >>>>>>>>Terutama di tengah kondisi ancaman menghadapi krisis keuangan global. > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>>>>>>>Menurut dia, sudah saatnya pemerintah melakukan perubahan fundamental >>>>>>>>pada kebijakan utang. Hal ini harus dilakukan secara keselurahan yang >>>>>>>>dapat dimulai dari proses penyusunan nota keuangan pada rancangan >>>>>>>>anggaran pendapatan dan belanja negara (RAPBN) 2013. 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