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>________________________________ > From: arra_s <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:20 AM >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (safin _blanc ngaco lagi....) > > > > > >Tem.. udahlah.. si Uplik ngga usah di uji uji terus buat pasang badan.. > >> >.. batin Uplik senantiasa menjerit, apabila ada yg membantah Item abu.. >> > > >ngga kesian lu sama dia..?? > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: >> >> Lu bisa bantah ga perkataan gua ini? >> "Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan ngebantai >> dijalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh?" >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> > From: arra_s <arra_s@...> >> >To: [email protected] >> >Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:38 AM >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (safin _blanc ngaco lagi....) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >bagi Uplik.. Hanya Item yayang yang selalu benar.. dan tidak bisa >> >dibantah.. >> > >> >terharu juga melihat hubungan 2 orang manusia yg sangat mendalam ini.. >> >hanya ada aku dan kamu, demikian mabuk nya 2 org ini.. kebenaran milik kita >> >berdua.. batin Uplik senantiasa menjerit, apabila ada yg membantah Item >> >abu.. >> > >> >sungguh terharu.. >> > >> >--- In [email protected], safin _blanc <pandan.wangi558@> wrote: >> >> >> >> .. demi masa .. (waktu yg semakin habis, count down, tik tak tik tak ... ) >> >> .. sesungguhnya manusia itu benar-benar dalam kerugian .. >> >> .. kecuali orang yg beriman dan beramal saleh .. >> >> .. dan nasehat menasehati supaya menaati kebenaran dan nasehat menasehati >> >> dalam kesabaran .. >> >> .. >> >> .. qs .. >> >> .. >> >> .. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@>wrote: >> >> >> >> > ** >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > safin _blanc yang dungu kayak anjing tentu saja nggak bisa membantah apa >> >> > yagn ditulis item abu.. >> >> > >> >> > Lantas seperti biasanya, dia ngaco lagi dengan mengirim bualan orang >> >> > Arab >> >> > primitif.. >> >> > >> >> > Saya kutip apa yang ditulis "item abu" yang tidak bisa dibantah oleh >> >> > safin >> >> > _blanc yang dungu kayak anjing itu: >> >> > >> >> > "Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan >> >> > ngebantai di >> >> > jalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh?" >> >> > >> >> > --- In [email protected], safin _blanc <pandan.wangi558@> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > .. om, hendaknya bersabar sambil simak ini >> >> > > >> >> > > .. dan tidaklah kami mengutus rasul-rasul melainkan sebagai pembawa >> >> > berita >> >> > > gembira dan sebagai pemberi peringatan; tetapi orang-orang kafir >> >> > membantah >> >> > > dengan yg bathil agar dengan demikian mereka dapat melenyapkan yang >> >> > > hak >> >> > dan >> >> > > mereka menganggap ayat-ayat kami dan peringatan-peringatan terhadap >> >> > mereka >> >> > > sebagai olok-olokan.. >> >> > > .. qs 18:56 .. >> >> > > .. >> >> > > .. demikianlah, balasan kepada mereka itu ialah neraka, disebabkan >> >> > > kekafiran mereka dan disebabkan mereka menjadikan ayat-ayat ku dan >> >> > > rasul-rasul ku sebagai olok-olok..qs 18:106 .. >> >> > > .. >> >> > > .. >> >> > > .. selamat berpuasa .. >> >> > > .. >> >> > > >> >> > > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@>wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > > ** >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Jangan biasain omong kosong kalau mau jadi Missionaries Yth >> >> > > > >> >> > > > jihad apaan? >> >> > > > ngerampok ngebantai apaan? >> >> > > > otak elu isinya sampah! >> >> > > > dari sebab itu omongan&mulut lu bau. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > ________________________________ >> >> > > > From: item abu <itemabu@> >> >> > > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> >> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:06 AM >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya >> >> > otak >> >> > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan >> >> > ngebantai di >> >> > > > jalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh? >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >________________________________ >> >> > > > > From: Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@> >> >> > > > >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> >> > > > >Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:23 PM >> >> > > > >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya >> >> > otak >> >> > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >Oh begitu ya >> >> > > > >jadi budaya kasih Zakat juga bejad? >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >budaya larang mabuk,larang zinah,larang dusta itu juga bejad? >> >> > > > >larang berhianat,jaga kebersihan juga bejad? >> >> > > > >larang berjudi juga bejad? >> >> > > > >wah gua kagak ngerti dah cara mikir elu. >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >________________________________ >> >> > > > >From: item abu <itemabu@> >> >> > > > >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> >> > > > >Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:12 AM >> >> > > > >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya >> >> > otak >> >> > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >Hehehe... begitu syariat iblis berkuasa, maka ga ada lagi orang >> >> > Minang, >> >> > > > krn semua kebudayaan Minang akan dihabisi diganti dgn budaya Islam >> >> > > > yg >> >> > bejad. >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >>________________________________ >> >> > > > >> From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> >> >> > > > >>To: [email protected] >> >> > > > >>Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 7:09 PM >> >> > > > >>Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya >> >> > > > >>otak >> >> > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >>Orang minang tetap bisa menjadi orang minang meskipun beragama >> >> > > > >>Islam. >> >> > > > Minang bahkan identik dengan Islam. Jadi kalau ada minang yang jadi >> >> > > > nge >> >> > > > londo kayak gini, ya itu brarti sudah tercabut akar budayanya. >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >>Paradox Plik ... >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >>Elo ngomong bahwa Islam hanya untuk Arab. Sementara elo sendiri >> >> > > > >>gagal >> >> > > > tetep jadi orang minang saat elo hidup di holland. elo malah lebih >> >> > londo >> >> > > > dari londo. >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >>Istri saya papa nya orang belanda. Belanda Asli. Muslim, shalat, >> >> > puasa. >> >> > > > Dia bangga jadi orang Indonesia dan meninggal dengan mengucapkan dua >> >> > > > kalimah syahadat. >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >>Nah elo ? >> >> > > > >>Mampus dengan mengucapkan nonok bebek haramjadah. >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >>kasihan. >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >>--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> >> >> > > > wrote: >> >> > > > >>> >> >> > > > >>> >> >> > > > >>> Dan seluruh khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu juga ditulis orang Arab >> >> > > > primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya yang berbahasa >> >> > Arab, >> >> > > > jadi bukan untuk berbagai suku bangsa di Indonesia yang >> >> > > > masing-masing >> >> > punya >> >> > > > bahasanya sendiri-sendiri. >> >> > > > >>> >> >> > > > >>> >> >> > > > >>> >> >> > > > >>> >> >> > > > >>> --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" >> >> > > > >>> <bukan.pedanda@> >> >> > > > wrote: >> >> > > > >>> > >> >> > > > >>> > >> >> > > > >>> > >> >> > > > >>> > Makanya dia masih juga tidak mengerti bahwa aturan puasa di >> >> > al-Musaf >> >> > > > itu dibikin orang Arab primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah >> >> > sekitarnya >> >> > > > yang berbahasa Arab dan yang tidak tahu bumi itu bunder... >> >> > > > >>> > >> >> > > > >>> > >> >> > > > >>> > >> >> > > > >>> > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > Hehehe... perintah auloh dilanggar oleh orang yg "berpikir". >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >________________________________ >> >> > > > >>> > > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> >> >> > > > >>> > > >To: [email protected] >> >> > > > >>> > > >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:47 PM >> >> > > > >>> > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in >> >> > > > Ramadan: The Sun never sets here >> >> > > > >>> > > > >> >> > > > >>> > > > >> >> > > > >>> > > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >Pernah denger nddak tem bahwa SAAT INI di dunia ini adzan >> >> > > > bersahutan tiada henti ? Saat adzan subuh berhenti berkumandang di >> >> > daerah >> >> > > > anu, maka adzan subuh mulai berkumandang di daerah yang lain seiring >> >> > > > berjalannya matahari ... >> >> > > > >>> > > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >Muslim di kutub tentusaja nddak perlu nunggu sampai >> >> > > > >>> > > >matahari >> >> > > > tenggelam, kalau itu yang dilakukan, maka bertentangan dengan >> >> > > > klausul >> >> > bahwa >> >> > > > Islam diturunkan hanya bagi orang yang berpikir. >> >> > > > >>> > > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >Maksutnya bukan untuk orang yang males berpikir kayak elo >> >> > > > >>> > > >tem >> >> > ... >> >> > > > >>> > > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >Gimana game online nya rame ? >> >> > > > >>> > > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >Kasihan. >> >> > > > >>> > > > >> >> > > > >>> > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Orang Islam di kutub ini kepaksa hrs make "akal sehat" >> >> > > > >>> > > >> spy >> >> > ga >> >> > > > mati waktu puasa di musim panas. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Padahal auloh jelas2 ngasih perintah spy puasa dr fajar >> >> > sampe >> >> > > > matahari terbenam. Kalo orang hrs berpikir dan make "akal sehat" >> >> > > > spy ga >> >> > > > mati, berarti perintah auloh itu adalah perintah ga masuk akal sehat >> >> > dan >> >> > > > konyol, bukan? >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Siapa yg sebenarnya goblok? auloh yg ngasih perintah >> >> > > > >>> > > >> konyol, >> >> > > > atau orang Islam yg ga sadar akan kegoblokan auloh itu shg biarpun >> >> > jelas2 >> >> > > > mereka ngebangkang perintah auloh, tp mereka msh ngejilat pantat >> >> > > > auloh? >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Satu2nya mukjizat yg ada di Islam itu adalah begitu >> >> > banyaknya >> >> > > > orang goblok yg msh mau ngejilat pantat auloh. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> > http://www.emirates247.com/arctic-muslims-unique-dilemma-in-ramadan-the-sun-never-sets-here-2012-07-24-1.468650 >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in Ramadan: The Sun never >> >> > sets >> >> > > > here >> >> > > > >>> > > >> By AP >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Published Tuesday, July 24, 2012 >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> How do you observe dawn-to-dusk fasting when there is >> >> > neither >> >> > > > dawn nor dusk? >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> It's a question facing a small but growing number of >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Muslims >> >> > > > >>> > > >> celebrating the holy month of Ramadan on the northern >> >> > > > >>> > > >> tip of >> >> > > > Europe, >> >> > > > >>> > > >> where the the sun barely dips below the horizon at this >> >> > time of >> >> > > > year. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> In Rovaniemi, a northern Finland town that straddles the >> >> > Arctic >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Circle at 66 degrees north, the sun rises around 3:20 >> >> > > > >>> > > >> a.m. >> >> > and >> >> > > > sets >> >> > > > >>> > > >> about 11:20pm. That means Muslims who observe Ramadan >> >> > > > >>> > > >> could >> >> > be >> >> > > > required >> >> > > > >>> > > >> to go without food or drink for 20 hours. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> In a few years, Ramadan will begin even closer to the >> >> > > > >>> > > >> summer >> >> > > > solstice in late June, when the sun doesn't set at all. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> "We have to use common sense," said Mahmoud Said, 27, who >> >> > came >> >> > > > to Finnish Lapland from Kenya three years ago. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> To Said, that means following the fasting hours of the >> >> > nearest >> >> > > > Muslim country: Turkey. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> "It involves 14 or 15 hours of fasting which is okay, >> >> > > > >>> > > >> it's >> >> > not >> >> > > > bad," >> >> > > > >>> > > >> said Said, who works for a non-governmental organization >> >> > > > helping >> >> > > > >>> > > >> immigrants settle in the area. He estimates there are a >> >> > little >> >> > > > over 100 >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Muslims in Rovaniemi, mainly from Iraq, Somalia and >> >> > Afghanistan. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> There is no unanimity on how to deal with the issue, >> >> > > > >>> > > >> which >> >> > is >> >> > > > >>> > > >> becoming more pressing as more Muslim immigrants find >> >> > > > >>> > > >> their >> >> > way >> >> > > > to >> >> > > > >>> > > >> sparsely inhabited areas near the Arctic. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> In Alaska, the Islamic Community Center of Anchorage, >> >> > > > >>> > > >> "after >> >> > > > >>> > > >> consultation with scholars," advises Muslims to follow >> >> > > > >>> > > >> the >> >> > > > fasting hours of Makkah, Islam's holiest city. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> The Dublin-based European Council for Fatwa and Research, >> >> > > > however, >> >> > > > >>> > > >> said Muslims need to follow the local sunrise and sunset, >> >> > even >> >> > > > up north. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> "The debate on how to do this in the north has been on >> >> > going on >> >> > > > for a few years," said Omar Mustafa, the chairman of the Islamic >> >> > > > Association >> >> > > > >>> > > >> of Sweden. "We fast according to the sun. As long as it >> >> > > > >>> > > >> is >> >> > > > possible to >> >> > > > >>> > > >> tell dusk from dawn. This applies to 90 per cent of >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Sweden's >> >> > > > Muslims." >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> The few Muslims who live so far north that they are >> >> > > > >>> > > >> awash in >> >> > > > 24-hour >> >> > > > >>> > > >> daylight should follow the daylight hours the closest >> >> > > > >>> > > >> city >> >> > in >> >> > > > Sweden >> >> > > > >>> > > >> where you can tell dawn from dusk, he said, noting that >> >> > > > >>> > > >> it's >> >> > > > permitted >> >> > > > >>> > > >> to break the fast for health reasons. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Kaltouma Abakar and her extended family of nine relatives >> >> > came >> >> > > > to >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Finland from Sudan's Darfur region four years ago. She >> >> > > > >>> > > >> opts >> >> > to >> >> > > > observe >> >> > > > >>> > > >> the local Lapland sunrise and sunset times before >> >> > > > >>> > > >> breaking >> >> > the >> >> > > > fast in >> >> > > > >>> > > >> her downtown Rovaniemi apartment. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Kaltouma explains that she gets up early and works until >> >> > > > >>> > > >> the >> >> > > > >>> > > >> afternoon, then starts cooking the family's iftar meal >> >> > around 5 >> >> > > > p.m. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> "The time of Ramadan fasting is very long, and breaking >> >> > > > >>> > > >> the >> >> > > > fast can >> >> > > > >>> > > >> be around 11:30 in the evening. The time you're supposed >> >> > > > >>> > > >> to >> >> > eat >> >> > > > your >> >> > > > >>> > > >> breakfast is 2 o'clock in the morning," the 31-year old >> >> > said. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> In the kitchen, Kaltouma's two daughters â€" >> >> > > > >>> > > >> aged 11 and >> >> > 6 >> >> > > > â€" help >> >> > > > >>> > > >> prepare the food. They fry chicken and pastries filled >> >> > > > >>> > > >> with >> >> > > > tuna in >> >> > > > >>> > > >> scalding hot oil. A pot of rice simmers on the stove >> >> > > > >>> > > >> while >> >> > one >> >> > > > girl >> >> > > > >>> > > >> kneads cornmeal dough which they'll dip into a chicken >> >> > > > >>> > > >> broth >> >> > > > and eat >> >> > > > >>> > > >> with their fingers â€" traditional Sudanese >> >> > > > >>> > > >> style â€" >> >> > a >> >> > > > few hours later. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Apart from the late sunset times, Kaltouma said the lack >> >> > > > >>> > > >> of >> >> > > > "Muslim >> >> > > > >>> > > >> food" locally in Rovaniemi can be a challenge. She >> >> > > > >>> > > >> sometimes >> >> > > > has to wait several days for halal meat and other traditional >> >> > ingredients >> >> > > > to come >> >> > > > >>> > > >> from the larger cities of Oulu, or Helsinki in the south. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Even though, technically, there is nightfall in >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Rovaniemi at >> >> > > > this >> >> > > > >>> > > >> time of year, there is no true darkness. Instead, >> >> > > > >>> > > >> there's a >> >> > > > grey >> >> > > > >>> > > >> gloaming with occasional dappled rays of sun reaching >> >> > > > >>> > > >> over >> >> > the >> >> > > > northern >> >> > > > >>> > > >> horizon, giving the city a mystical quality even in the >> >> > > > supposed dead of night. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> The dates of Ramadan change according to the lunar >> >> > > > >>> > > >> calendar, >> >> > > > moving >> >> > > > >>> > > >> back 11 days each year. That means that by 2015 there >> >> > > > >>> > > >> will >> >> > be >> >> > > > no sunset >> >> > > > >>> > > >> for a month when Ramadan falls closer to midsummer. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> Still, Kaltouma says "there is going to be at least 10 >> >> > minutes >> >> > > > for us to break the fast." >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> She said there is one positive aspect of observing long >> >> > fasting >> >> > > > hours in the Arctic during Ramadan: the cool temperatures. >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> "Unlike Africa, here in Finland you don't get thirsty >> >> > often. 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