Dan tetap saja "arra_s" yang termasuk manusia paling dungu dimuka bumi ini nggak bisa membantah apa yagn dikatakan item abu...
Lantas dia pamer otaknya yang sudah rusak dan jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan. Saya kutip apa yagn ditulis item abu itu: Lu bisa bantah ga perkataan gua ini? "Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan > >ngebantai dijalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh?" --- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@...> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > Saya kutip apa yagn ditulis item abu itu: > > > > Lu bisa bantah ga perkataan gua ini? > > "Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan > > > >ngebantai dijalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh?" > > > Tem dan Uplik.. > gini yah.. orang dungu seperti kamu.. > hayalan nya suka maksa maksa deh.. > maksa supaya sesuatu kejadian harus terjadi pada kondisi tertentu.. ini > namanya skenario.. > kalao kamu berdua mau bikin skenario ya bebas bebas aja.. > mau skenario horror, drama etc ya suka suka elu lah.. > tapi apa hubungan nya skenario yg elu berdua bikin sama gue?? > kenapa juga gw mesti ngebantah skenario elu yg kampungan itu? > boro boro buat ngebantah.. > ngebaca nya juga gw ogah.. > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dan tetap saja "arra_s" yang termasuk manusia paling dungu dimuka bumi ini > > nggak bisa > > >membantah apa yagn dikatakan item abu... > > > > Lantas dia pamer otaknya yang ssudah rusak dan jadi busuk, nista lagi > > >menjijikkan. > > > > Saya kutip apa yagn ditulis item abu itu: > > > > Lu bisa bantah ga perkataan gua ini? > > "Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan > > > >ngebantai dijalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh?" > > > > --- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > test.. test.. > > > gw belum ngomong apa apa loh? > > > apalagi membantah.. > > > cuman mau melongok doang.. > > > ngecek aja.. klo melongok doang apa si tarzan bin Leiden pake pasang > > > badan segala?? > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hehehe.... apa ada seekor muslim yg bisa ngebantah bhw ngasih zakat unt > > > > biaya jihad ngerampok dan ngebantai itu adalah perbuatan bejad? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > >To: [email protected] > > > > >Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:45 AM > > > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Jadi "arra_s" nggak bisa > > > > >bantah item abu......) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dan tetap saja "arra_s" yang termasuk manusia paling dungu dimuka bumi > > > > >ini nggak bisa > > > > >membantah apa yagn dikatakan item abu... > > > > > > > > > >Lantas dia pamer otaknya yang ssudah rusak dan jadi busuk, nista lagi > > > > >menjijikkan. > > > > > > > > > >Saya kutip apa yagn ditulis item abu itu: > > > > > > > > > >Lu bisa bantah ga perkataan gua ini? > > > > >"Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan > > > > > >ngebantai dijalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh?" > > > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Udah lah Uplik.. > > > > >> masa mesti perlu kerja sama pasang perangkap dgn si item cuma buat > > > > >> ngobrol sama saya?? > > > > >> > > > > >> cukuplah gunakan itu otak dan logika.. > > > > >> pasti saya bersedia.. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Jadi "arra_s" yang termasuk manusia paling dungu dimuka bumi ini > > > > >> > bggak bisa membantah apa yagn dikatakan item abu... > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Lantas dia pmer otaknya yang ssudah rusak dan jadi busuk, nista > > > > >> > lagi menjijikkan. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Saya kutip apa yagn ditulis item abu itu: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Lu bisa bantah ga perkataan gua ini? > > > > >> > > "Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan > > > > >> > > > ngebantai dijalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh?" > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > --- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Tem.. udahlah.. si Uplik ngga usah di uji uji terus buat pasang > > > > >> > > badan.. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >.. batin Uplik senantiasa menjerit, apabila ada yg membantah > > > > >> > > > >Item abu.. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > ngga kesian lu sama dia..?? > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Lu bisa bantah ga perkataan gua ini? > > > > >> > > > "Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan > > > > >> > > > ngebantai dijalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh?" > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >________________________________ > > > > >> > > > > From: arra_s <arra_s@> > > > > >> > > > >To: [email protected] > > > > >> > > > >Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:38 AM > > > > >> > > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (safin _blanc ngaco > > > > >> > > > >lagi....) > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >à> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >bagi Uplik.. Hanya Item yayang yang selalu benar.. dan > > > > >> > > > >tidak bisa dibantah.. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >terharu juga melihat hubungan 2 orang manusia yg sangat > > > > >> > > > >mendalam ini.. hanya ada aku dan kamu, demikian mabuk nya 2 > > > > >> > > > >org ini.. kebenaran milik kita berdua.. batin Uplik > > > > >> > > > >senantiasa menjerit, apabila ada yg membantah Item abu.. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >sungguh terharu.. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >--- In [email protected], safin _blanc > > > > >> > > > ><pandan.wangi558@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> .. demi masa .. (waktu yg semakin habis, count down, tik > > > > >> > > > >> tak tik tak ... ) > > > > >> > > > >> .. sesungguhnya manusia itu benar-benar dalam kerugian .. > > > > >> > > > >> .. kecuali orang yg beriman dan beramal saleh .. > > > > >> > > > >> .. dan nasehat menasehati supaya menaati kebenaran dan > > > > >> > > > >> nasehat menasehati > > > > >> > > > >> dalam kesabaran .. > > > > >> > > > >> .. > > > > >> > > > >> .. qs .. > > > > >> > > > >> .. > > > > >> > > > >> .. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Bukan Pedanda > > > > >> > > > >> <bukan.pedanda@>wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > ** > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > safin _blanc yang dungu kayak anjing tentu saja nggak > > > > >> > > > >> > bisa membantah apa > > > > >> > > > >> > yagn ditulis item abu.. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > Lantas seperti biasanya, dia ngaco lagi dengan mengirim > > > > >> > > > >> > bualan orang Arab > > > > >> > > > >> > primitif.. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > Saya kutip apa yang ditulis "item abu" yang tidak bisa > > > > >> > > > >> > dibantah oleh safin > > > > >> > > > >> > _blanc yang dungu kayak anjing itu: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > "Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad > > > > >> > > > >> > ngerampok dan ngebantai di > > > > >> > > > >> > jalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh?" > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > --- In [email protected], safin _blanc > > > > >> > > > >> > <pandan.wangi558@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > .. om, hendaknya bersabar sambil simak ini > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > .. dan tidaklah kami mengutus rasul-rasul melainkan > > > > >> > > > >> > > sebagai pembawa > > > > >> > > > >> > berita > > > > >> > > > >> > > gembira dan sebagai pemberi peringatan; tetapi > > > > >> > > > >> > > orang-orang kafir > > > > >> > > > >> > membantah > > > > >> > > > >> > > dengan yg bathil agar dengan demikian mereka dapat > > > > >> > > > >> > > melenyapkan yang hak > > > > >> > > > >> > dan > > > > >> > > > >> > > mereka menganggap ayat-ayat kami dan > > > > >> > > > >> > > peringatan-peringatan terhadap > > > > >> > > > >> > mereka > > > > >> > > > >> > > sebagai olok-olokan.. > > > > >> > > > >> > > .. qs 18:56 .. > > > > >> > > > >> > > .. > > > > >> > > > >> > > .. demikianlah, balasan kepada mereka itu ialah neraka, > > > > >> > > > >> > > disebabkan > > > > >> > > > >> > > kekafiran mereka dan disebabkan mereka menjadikan > > > > >> > > > >> > > ayat-ayat ku dan > > > > >> > > > >> > > rasul-rasul ku sebagai olok-olok..qs 18:106 .. > > > > >> > > > >> > > .. > > > > >> > > > >> > > .. > > > > >> > > > >> > > .. selamat berpuasa .. > > > > >> > > > >> > > .. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Musik hari Ini > > > > >> > > > >> > > <musikhariini@>wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > ** > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Jangan biasain omong kosong kalau mau jadi > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Missionaries Yth > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > jihad apaan? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > ngerampok ngebantai apaan? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > otak elu isinya sampah! > > > > >> > > > >> > > > dari sebab itu omongan&mulut lu bau. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > ________________________________ > > > > >> > > > >> > > > From: item abu <itemabu@> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > To: "[email protected]" > > > > >> > > > >> > > > <[email protected]> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:06 AM > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin > > > > >> > > > >> > > > itu nggak punya > > > > >> > > > >> > otak > > > > >> > > > >> > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad > > > > >> > > > >> > > > ngerampok dan > > > > >> > > > >> > ngebantai di > > > > >> > > > >> > > > jalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >________________________________ > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > From: Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >To: "[email protected]" > > > > >> > > > >> > > > ><[email protected]> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:23 PM > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >itu nggak punya > > > > >> > > > >> > otak > > > > >> > > > >> > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Oh begitu ya > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >jadi budaya kasih Zakat juga bejad? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >budaya larang mabuk,larang zinah,larang dusta itu > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >juga bejad? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >larang berhianat,jaga kebersihan juga bejad? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >larang berjudi juga bejad? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >wah gua kagak ngerti dah cara mikir elu. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >________________________________ > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >From: item abu <itemabu@> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >To: "[email protected]" > > > > >> > > > >> > > > ><[email protected]> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:12 AM > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >itu nggak punya > > > > >> > > > >> > otak > > > > >> > > > >> > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Hehehe... begitu syariat iblis berkuasa, maka ga ada > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >lagi orang > > > > >> > > > >> > Minang, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > krn semua kebudayaan Minang akan dihabisi diganti dgn > > > > >> > > > >> > > > budaya Islam yg > > > > >> > > > >> > bejad. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>________________________________ > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>To: [email protected] > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 7:09 PM > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>nggak punya otak > > > > >> > > > >> > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Orang minang tetap bisa menjadi orang minang > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>meskipun beragama Islam. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Minang bahkan identik dengan Islam. Jadi kalau ada > > > > >> > > > >> > > > minang yang jadi nge > > > > >> > > > >> > > > londo kayak gini, ya itu brarti sudah tercabut akar > > > > >> > > > >> > > > budayanya. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Paradox Plik ... > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Elo ngomong bahwa Islam hanya untuk Arab. Sementara > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>elo sendiri gagal > > > > >> > > > >> > > > tetep jadi orang minang saat elo hidup di holland. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > elo malah lebih > > > > >> > > > >> > londo > > > > >> > > > >> > > > dari londo. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Istri saya papa nya orang belanda. Belanda Asli. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Muslim, shalat, > > > > >> > > > >> > puasa. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Dia bangga jadi orang Indonesia dan meninggal dengan > > > > >> > > > >> > > > mengucapkan dua > > > > >> > > > >> > > > kalimah syahadat. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Nah elo ? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Mampus dengan mengucapkan nonok bebek haramjadah. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>kasihan. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >><bukan.pedanda@> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> Dan seluruh khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu juga > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> ditulis orang Arab > > > > >> > > > >> > > > primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya > > > > >> > > > >> > > > yang berbahasa > > > > >> > > > >> > Arab, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > jadi bukan untuk berbagai suku bangsa di Indonesia > > > > >> > > > >> > > > yang masing-masing > > > > >> > > > >> > punya > > > > >> > > > >> > > > bahasanya sendiri-sendiri. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > Makanya dia masih juga tidak mengerti bahwa > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > aturan puasa di > > > > >> > > > >> > al-Musaf > > > > >> > > > >> > > > itu dibikin orang Arab primitif untuk penduduk Makkah > > > > >> > > > >> > > > dan daerah > > > > >> > > > >> > sekitarnya > > > > >> > > > >> > > > yang berbahasa Arab dan yang tidak tahu bumi itu > > > > >> > > > >> > > > bunder... > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > --- In [email protected], item abu > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > Hehehe... perintah auloh dilanggar oleh orang > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > yg "berpikir". > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >________________________________ > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >To: [email protected] > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:47 PM > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >unique dilemma in > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Ramadan: The Sun never sets here > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Ãâ > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Pernah denger nddak tem bahwa SAAT INI di > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >dunia ini adzan > > > > >> > > > >> > > > bersahutan tiada henti ? Saat adzan subuh berhenti > > > > >> > > > >> > > > berkumandang di > > > > >> > > > >> > daerah > > > > >> > > > >> > > > anu, maka adzan subuh mulai berkumandang di daerah > > > > >> > > > >> > > > yang lain seiring > > > > >> > > > >> > > > berjalannya matahari ... > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Muslim di kutub tentusaja nddak perlu nunggu > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >sampai matahari > > > > >> > > > >> > > > tenggelam, kalau itu yang dilakukan, maka > > > > >> > > > >> > > > bertentangan dengan klausul > > > > >> > > > >> > bahwa > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Islam diturunkan hanya bagi orang yang berpikir. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Maksutnya bukan untuk orang yang males > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >berpikir kayak elo tem > > > > >> > > > >> > ... > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Gimana game online nya rame ? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Kasihan. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >--- In [email protected], item abu > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > ><itemabu@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Orang Islam di kutub ini kepaksa hrs make > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> "akal sehat" spy > > > > >> > > > >> > ga > > > > >> > > > >> > > > mati waktu puasa di musim panas. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Padahal auloh jelas2 ngasih perintah spy > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> puasa dr fajar > > > > >> > > > >> > sampe > > > > >> > > > >> > > > matahari terbenam. Kalo orang hrs berpikir dan make > > > > >> > > > >> > > > "akal sehat" spy ga > > > > >> > > > >> > > > mati, berarti perintah auloh itu adalah perintah ga > > > > >> > > > >> > > > masuk akal sehat > > > > >> > > > >> > dan > > > > >> > > > >> > > > konyol, bukan? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Siapa yg sebenarnya goblok? auloh yg > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> ngasih perintah konyol, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > atau orang Islam yg ga sadar akan kegoblokan auloh > > > > >> > > > >> > > > itu shg biarpun > > > > >> > > > >> > jelas2 > > > > >> > > > >> > > > mereka ngebangkang perintah auloh, tp mereka msh > > > > >> > > > >> > > > ngejilat pantat auloh? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Satu2nya mukjizat yg ada di Islam itu > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> adalah begitu > > > > >> > > > >> > banyaknya > > > > >> > > > >> > > > orang goblok yg msh mau ngejilat pantat auloh. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > http://www.emirates247.com/arctic-muslims-unique-dilemma-in-ramadan-the-sun-never-sets-here-2012-07-24-1.468650 > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in Ramadan: > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> The Sun never > > > > >> > > > >> > sets > > > > >> > > > >> > > > here > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> By AP > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Published Tuesday, July 24, 2012 > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> How do you observe dawn-to-dusk fasting > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> when there is > > > > >> > > > >> > neither > > > > >> > > > >> > > > dawn nor dusk? > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> It's a question facing a small but growing > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> number of Muslims > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> celebrating the holy month of Ramadan on > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> the northern tip of > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Europe, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> where the the sun barely dips below the > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> horizon at this > > > > >> > > > >> > time of > > > > >> > > > >> > > > year. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> In Rovaniemi, a northern Finland town that > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> straddles the > > > > >> > > > >> > Arctic > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Circle at 66 degrees north, the sun rises > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> around 3:20 a.m. > > > > >> > > > >> > and > > > > >> > > > >> > > > sets > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> about 11:20pm. That means Muslims who > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> observe Ramadan could > > > > >> > > > >> > be > > > > >> > > > >> > > > required > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> to go without food or drink for 20 hours. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> In a few years, Ramadan will begin even > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> closer to the summer > > > > >> > > > >> > > > solstice in late June, when the sun doesn't set at > > > > >> > > > >> > > > all. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> "We have to use common sense," said > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Mahmoud Said, 27, who > > > > >> > > > >> > came > > > > >> > > > >> > > > to Finnish Lapland from Kenya three years ago. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> To Said, that means following the fasting > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> hours of the > > > > >> > > > >> > nearest > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Muslim country: Turkey. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> "It involves 14 or 15 hours of fasting > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> which is okay, it's > > > > >> > > > >> > not > > > > >> > > > >> > > > bad," > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> said Said, who works for a > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> non-governmental organization > > > > >> > > > >> > > > helping > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> immigrants settle in the area. He > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> estimates there are a > > > > >> > > > >> > little > > > > >> > > > >> > > > over 100 > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Muslims in Rovaniemi, mainly from Iraq, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Somalia and > > > > >> > > > >> > Afghanistan. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> There is no unanimity on how to deal with > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> the issue, which > > > > >> > > > >> > is > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> becoming more pressing as more Muslim > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> immigrants find their > > > > >> > > > >> > way > > > > >> > > > >> > > > to > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> sparsely inhabited areas near the Arctic. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> In Alaska, the Islamic Community Center of > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Anchorage, "after > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> consultation with scholars," advises > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Muslims to follow the > > > > >> > > > >> > > > fasting hours of Makkah, Islam's holiest city. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> The Dublin-based European Council for > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Fatwa and Research, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > however, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> said Muslims need to follow the local > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> sunrise and sunset, > > > > >> > > > >> > even > > > > >> > > > >> > > > up north. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> "The debate on how to do this in the north > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> has been on > > > > >> > > > >> > going on > > > > >> > > > >> > > > for a few years," said Omar Mustafa, the chairman of > > > > >> > > > >> > > > the Islamic > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Association > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> of Sweden. "We fast according to the sun. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> As long as it is > > > > >> > > > >> > > > possible to > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> tell dusk from dawn. This applies to 90 > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> per cent of Sweden's > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Muslims." > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> The few Muslims who live so far north that > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> they are awash in > > > > >> > > > >> > > > 24-hour > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> daylight should follow the daylight hours > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> the closest city > > > > >> > > > >> > in > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Sweden > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> where you can tell dawn from dusk, he > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> said, noting that it's > > > > >> > > > >> > > > permitted > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> to break the fast for health reasons. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Kaltouma Abakar and her extended family of > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> nine relatives > > > > >> > > > >> > came > > > > >> > > > >> > > > to > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Finland from Sudan's Darfur region four > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> years ago. She opts > > > > >> > > > >> > to > > > > >> > > > >> > > > observe > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> the local Lapland sunrise and sunset times > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> before breaking > > > > >> > > > >> > the > > > > >> > > > >> > > > fast in > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> her downtown Rovaniemi apartment. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Kaltouma explains that she gets up early > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> and works until the > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> afternoon, then starts cooking the > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> family's iftar meal > > > > >> > > > >> > around 5 > > > > >> > > > >> > > > p.m. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> "The time of Ramadan fasting is very long, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> and breaking the > > > > >> > > > >> > > > fast can > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> be around 11:30 in the evening. The time > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> you're supposed to > > > > >> > > > >> > eat > > > > >> > > > >> > > > your > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> breakfast is 2 o'clock in the morning," > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> the 31-year old > > > > >> > > > >> > said. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> In the kitchen, Kaltouma's two daughters > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬" aged 11 and > > > > >> > > > >> > 6 > > > > >> > > > >> > > > ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬" help > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> prepare the food. They fry chicken and > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> pastries filled with > > > > >> > > > >> > > > tuna in > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> scalding hot oil. A pot of rice simmers on > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> the stove while > > > > >> > > > >> > one > > > > >> > > > >> > > > girl > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> kneads cornmeal dough which they'll dip > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> into a chicken broth > > > > >> > > > >> > > > and eat > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> with their fingers > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬" traditional > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Sudanese style ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬" > > > > >> > > > >> > a > > > > >> > > > >> > > > few hours later. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Apart from the late sunset times, Kaltouma > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> said the lack of > > > > >> > > > >> > > > "Muslim > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> food" locally in Rovaniemi can be a > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> challenge. She sometimes > > > > >> > > > >> > > > has to wait several days for halal meat and other > > > > >> > > > >> > > > traditional > > > > >> > > > >> > ingredients > > > > >> > > > >> > > > to come > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> from the larger cities of Oulu, or > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Helsinki in the south. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Even though, technically, there is > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> nightfall in Rovaniemi at > > > > >> > > > >> > > > this > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> time of year, there is no true darkness. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Instead, there's a > > > > >> > > > >> > > > grey > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> gloaming with occasional dappled rays of > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> sun reaching over > > > > >> > > > >> > the > > > > >> > > > >> > > > northern > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> horizon, giving the city a mystical > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> quality even in the > > > > >> > > > >> > > > supposed dead of night. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> The dates of Ramadan change according to > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> the lunar calendar, > > > > >> > > > >> > > > moving > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> back 11 days each year. That means that by > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> 2015 there will > > > > >> > > > >> > be > > > > >> > > > >> > > > no sunset > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> for a month when Ramadan falls closer to > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> midsummer. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> Still, Kaltouma says "there is going to be > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> at least 10 > > > > >> > > > >> > minutes > > > > >> > > > >> > > > for us to break the fast." > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> She said there is one positive aspect of > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> observing long > > > > >> > > > >> > fasting > > > > >> > > > >> > > > hours in the Arctic during Ramadan: the cool > > > > >> > > > >> > > > temperatures. > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> "Unlike Africa, here in Finland you don't > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> get thirsty > > > > >> > > > >> > often. No > > > > >> > > > >> > > > matter how long you fast, you don't get the urge for > > > > >> > > > >> > > > water." > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> been removed] > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > removed] > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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