Tem.. udahlah.. si Uplik ngga usah di uji uji terus buat pasang badan..
> >.. batin Uplik senantiasa menjerit, apabila ada yg membantah Item abu.. > > ngga kesian lu sama dia..?? --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: > > Lu bisa bantah ga perkataan gua ini? > "Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan ngebantai > dijalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh?" > > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: arra_s <arra_s@...> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:38 AM > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (safin _blanc ngaco lagi....) > > > > > > > > > >bagi Uplik.. Hanya Item yayang yang selalu benar.. dan tidak bisa > >dibantah.. > > > >terharu juga melihat hubungan 2 orang manusia yg sangat mendalam ini.. hanya > >ada aku dan kamu, demikian mabuk nya 2 org ini.. kebenaran milik kita > >berdua.. batin Uplik senantiasa menjerit, apabila ada yg membantah Item > >abu.. > > > >sungguh terharu.. > > > >--- In [email protected], safin _blanc <pandan.wangi558@> wrote: > >> > >> .. demi masa .. (waktu yg semakin habis, count down, tik tak tik tak ... ) > >> .. sesungguhnya manusia itu benar-benar dalam kerugian .. > >> .. kecuali orang yg beriman dan beramal saleh .. > >> .. dan nasehat menasehati supaya menaati kebenaran dan nasehat menasehati > >> dalam kesabaran .. > >> .. > >> .. qs .. > >> .. > >> .. > >> > >> On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@>wrote: > >> > >> > ** > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > safin _blanc yang dungu kayak anjing tentu saja nggak bisa membantah apa > >> > yagn ditulis item abu.. > >> > > >> > Lantas seperti biasanya, dia ngaco lagi dengan mengirim bualan orang Arab > >> > primitif.. > >> > > >> > Saya kutip apa yang ditulis "item abu" yang tidak bisa dibantah oleh > >> > safin > >> > _blanc yang dungu kayak anjing itu: > >> > > >> > "Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan ngebantai > >> > di > >> > jalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh?" > >> > > >> > --- In [email protected], safin _blanc <pandan.wangi558@> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > .. om, hendaknya bersabar sambil simak ini > >> > > > >> > > .. dan tidaklah kami mengutus rasul-rasul melainkan sebagai pembawa > >> > berita > >> > > gembira dan sebagai pemberi peringatan; tetapi orang-orang kafir > >> > membantah > >> > > dengan yg bathil agar dengan demikian mereka dapat melenyapkan yang hak > >> > dan > >> > > mereka menganggap ayat-ayat kami dan peringatan-peringatan terhadap > >> > mereka > >> > > sebagai olok-olokan.. > >> > > .. qs 18:56 .. > >> > > .. > >> > > .. demikianlah, balasan kepada mereka itu ialah neraka, disebabkan > >> > > kekafiran mereka dan disebabkan mereka menjadikan ayat-ayat ku dan > >> > > rasul-rasul ku sebagai olok-olok..qs 18:106 .. > >> > > .. > >> > > .. > >> > > .. selamat berpuasa .. > >> > > .. > >> > > > >> > > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@>wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > ** > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Jangan biasain omong kosong kalau mau jadi Missionaries Yth > >> > > > > >> > > > jihad apaan? > >> > > > ngerampok ngebantai apaan? > >> > > > otak elu isinya sampah! > >> > > > dari sebab itu omongan&mulut lu bau. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > ________________________________ > >> > > > From: item abu <itemabu@> > >> > > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:06 AM > >> > > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya > >> > otak > >> > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan > >> > ngebantai di > >> > > > jalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh? > >> > > > > >> > > > >________________________________ > >> > > > > From: Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@> > >> > > > >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >> > > > >Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:23 PM > >> > > > >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya > >> > otak > >> > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >Oh begitu ya > >> > > > >jadi budaya kasih Zakat juga bejad? > >> > > > > > >> > > > >budaya larang mabuk,larang zinah,larang dusta itu juga bejad? > >> > > > >larang berhianat,jaga kebersihan juga bejad? > >> > > > >larang berjudi juga bejad? > >> > > > >wah gua kagak ngerti dah cara mikir elu. > >> > > > > > >> > > > >________________________________ > >> > > > >From: item abu <itemabu@> > >> > > > >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >> > > > >Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:12 AM > >> > > > >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya > >> > otak > >> > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >Hehehe... begitu syariat iblis berkuasa, maka ga ada lagi orang > >> > Minang, > >> > > > krn semua kebudayaan Minang akan dihabisi diganti dgn budaya Islam yg > >> > bejad. > >> > > > > > >> > > > >>________________________________ > >> > > > >> From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> > >> > > > >>To: [email protected] > >> > > > >>Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 7:09 PM > >> > > > >>Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya > >> > > > >>otak > >> > > > buat mikir -sambungan.) > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >>Orang minang tetap bisa menjadi orang minang meskipun beragama > >> > > > >>Islam. > >> > > > Minang bahkan identik dengan Islam. Jadi kalau ada minang yang jadi > >> > > > nge > >> > > > londo kayak gini, ya itu brarti sudah tercabut akar budayanya. > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >>Paradox Plik ... > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >>Elo ngomong bahwa Islam hanya untuk Arab. Sementara elo sendiri > >> > > > >>gagal > >> > > > tetep jadi orang minang saat elo hidup di holland. elo malah lebih > >> > londo > >> > > > dari londo. > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >>Istri saya papa nya orang belanda. Belanda Asli. Muslim, shalat, > >> > puasa. > >> > > > Dia bangga jadi orang Indonesia dan meninggal dengan mengucapkan dua > >> > > > kalimah syahadat. > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >>Nah elo ? > >> > > > >>Mampus dengan mengucapkan nonok bebek haramjadah. > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >>kasihan. > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >>--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> Dan seluruh khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu juga ditulis orang Arab > >> > > > primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya yang berbahasa > >> > Arab, > >> > > > jadi bukan untuk berbagai suku bangsa di Indonesia yang masing-masing > >> > punya > >> > > > bahasanya sendiri-sendiri. > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > Makanya dia masih juga tidak mengerti bahwa aturan puasa di > >> > al-Musaf > >> > > > itu dibikin orang Arab primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah > >> > sekitarnya > >> > > > yang berbahasa Arab dan yang tidak tahu bumi itu bunder... > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > Hehehe... perintah auloh dilanggar oleh orang yg "berpikir". > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >________________________________ > >> > > > >>> > > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> > >> > > > >>> > > >To: [email protected] > >> > > > >>> > > >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:47 PM > >> > > > >>> > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in > >> > > > Ramadan: The Sun never sets here > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >>> > > >à > >> > > > >>> > > >Pernah denger nddak tem bahwa SAAT INI di dunia ini adzan > >> > > > bersahutan tiada henti ? Saat adzan subuh berhenti berkumandang di > >> > daerah > >> > > > anu, maka adzan subuh mulai berkumandang di daerah yang lain seiring > >> > > > berjalannya matahari ... > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Muslim di kutub tentusaja nddak perlu nunggu sampai matahari > >> > > > tenggelam, kalau itu yang dilakukan, maka bertentangan dengan klausul > >> > bahwa > >> > > > Islam diturunkan hanya bagi orang yang berpikir. > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Maksutnya bukan untuk orang yang males berpikir kayak elo > >> > > > >>> > > >tem > >> > ... > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Gimana game online nya rame ? > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >>> > > >Kasihan. > >> > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > >>> > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> Orang Islam di kutub ini kepaksa hrs make "akal sehat" spy > >> > ga > >> > > > mati waktu puasa di musim panas. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> Padahal auloh jelas2 ngasih perintah spy puasa dr fajar > >> > sampe > >> > > > matahari terbenam. Kalo orang hrs berpikir dan make "akal sehat" spy > >> > > > ga > >> > > > mati, berarti perintah auloh itu adalah perintah ga masuk akal sehat > >> > dan > >> > > > konyol, bukan? > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> Siapa yg sebenarnya goblok? auloh yg ngasih perintah > >> > > > >>> > > >> konyol, > >> > > > atau orang Islam yg ga sadar akan kegoblokan auloh itu shg biarpun > >> > jelas2 > >> > > > mereka ngebangkang perintah auloh, tp mereka msh ngejilat pantat > >> > > > auloh? > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> Satu2nya mukjizat yg ada di Islam itu adalah begitu > >> > banyaknya > >> > > > orang goblok yg msh mau ngejilat pantat auloh. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > http://www.emirates247.com/arctic-muslims-unique-dilemma-in-ramadan-the-sun-never-sets-here-2012-07-24-1.468650 > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in Ramadan: The Sun never > >> > sets > >> > > > here > >> > > > >>> > > >> By AP > >> > > > >>> > > >> Published Tuesday, July 24, 2012 > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> How do you observe dawn-to-dusk fasting when there is > >> > neither > >> > > > dawn nor dusk? > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> It's a question facing a small but growing number of > >> > > > >>> > > >> Muslims > >> > > > >>> > > >> celebrating the holy month of Ramadan on the northern tip > >> > > > >>> > > >> of > >> > > > Europe, > >> > > > >>> > > >> where the the sun barely dips below the horizon at this > >> > time of > >> > > > year. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> In Rovaniemi, a northern Finland town that straddles the > >> > Arctic > >> > > > >>> > > >> Circle at 66 degrees north, the sun rises around 3:20 a.m. > >> > and > >> > > > sets > >> > > > >>> > > >> about 11:20pm. That means Muslims who observe Ramadan > >> > > > >>> > > >> could > >> > be > >> > > > required > >> > > > >>> > > >> to go without food or drink for 20 hours. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> In a few years, Ramadan will begin even closer to the > >> > > > >>> > > >> summer > >> > > > solstice in late June, when the sun doesn't set at all. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> "We have to use common sense," said Mahmoud Said, 27, who > >> > came > >> > > > to Finnish Lapland from Kenya three years ago. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> To Said, that means following the fasting hours of the > >> > nearest > >> > > > Muslim country: Turkey. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> "It involves 14 or 15 hours of fasting which is okay, it's > >> > not > >> > > > bad," > >> > > > >>> > > >> said Said, who works for a non-governmental organization > >> > > > helping > >> > > > >>> > > >> immigrants settle in the area. He estimates there are a > >> > little > >> > > > over 100 > >> > > > >>> > > >> Muslims in Rovaniemi, mainly from Iraq, Somalia and > >> > Afghanistan. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> There is no unanimity on how to deal with the issue, which > >> > is > >> > > > >>> > > >> becoming more pressing as more Muslim immigrants find > >> > > > >>> > > >> their > >> > way > >> > > > to > >> > > > >>> > > >> sparsely inhabited areas near the Arctic. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> In Alaska, the Islamic Community Center of Anchorage, > >> > > > >>> > > >> "after > >> > > > >>> > > >> consultation with scholars," advises Muslims to follow the > >> > > > fasting hours of Makkah, Islam's holiest city. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> The Dublin-based European Council for Fatwa and Research, > >> > > > however, > >> > > > >>> > > >> said Muslims need to follow the local sunrise and sunset, > >> > even > >> > > > up north. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> "The debate on how to do this in the north has been on > >> > going on > >> > > > for a few years," said Omar Mustafa, the chairman of the Islamic > >> > > > Association > >> > > > >>> > > >> of Sweden. "We fast according to the sun. As long as it is > >> > > > possible to > >> > > > >>> > > >> tell dusk from dawn. This applies to 90 per cent of > >> > > > >>> > > >> Sweden's > >> > > > Muslims." > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> The few Muslims who live so far north that they are awash > >> > > > >>> > > >> in > >> > > > 24-hour > >> > > > >>> > > >> daylight should follow the daylight hours the closest city > >> > in > >> > > > Sweden > >> > > > >>> > > >> where you can tell dawn from dusk, he said, noting that > >> > > > >>> > > >> it's > >> > > > permitted > >> > > > >>> > > >> to break the fast for health reasons. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> Kaltouma Abakar and her extended family of nine relatives > >> > came > >> > > > to > >> > > > >>> > > >> Finland from Sudan's Darfur region four years ago. She > >> > > > >>> > > >> opts > >> > to > >> > > > observe > >> > > > >>> > > >> the local Lapland sunrise and sunset times before breaking > >> > the > >> > > > fast in > >> > > > >>> > > >> her downtown Rovaniemi apartment. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> Kaltouma explains that she gets up early and works until > >> > > > >>> > > >> the > >> > > > >>> > > >> afternoon, then starts cooking the family's iftar meal > >> > around 5 > >> > > > p.m. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> "The time of Ramadan fasting is very long, and breaking > >> > > > >>> > > >> the > >> > > > fast can > >> > > > >>> > > >> be around 11:30 in the evening. The time you're supposed > >> > > > >>> > > >> to > >> > eat > >> > > > your > >> > > > >>> > > >> breakfast is 2 o'clock in the morning," the 31-year old > >> > said. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> In the kitchen, Kaltouma's two daughters âââ¬" > >> > > > >>> > > >> aged 11 and > >> > 6 > >> > > > âââ¬" help > >> > > > >>> > > >> prepare the food. They fry chicken and pastries filled > >> > > > >>> > > >> with > >> > > > tuna in > >> > > > >>> > > >> scalding hot oil. A pot of rice simmers on the stove while > >> > one > >> > > > girl > >> > > > >>> > > >> kneads cornmeal dough which they'll dip into a chicken > >> > > > >>> > > >> broth > >> > > > and eat > >> > > > >>> > > >> with their fingers âââ¬" traditional Sudanese > >> > > > >>> > > >> style âââ¬" > >> > a > >> > > > few hours later. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> Apart from the late sunset times, Kaltouma said the lack > >> > > > >>> > > >> of > >> > > > "Muslim > >> > > > >>> > > >> food" locally in Rovaniemi can be a challenge. She > >> > > > >>> > > >> sometimes > >> > > > has to wait several days for halal meat and other traditional > >> > ingredients > >> > > > to come > >> > > > >>> > > >> from the larger cities of Oulu, or Helsinki in the south. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> Even though, technically, there is nightfall in Rovaniemi > >> > > > >>> > > >> at > >> > > > this > >> > > > >>> > > >> time of year, there is no true darkness. Instead, there's > >> > > > >>> > > >> a > >> > > > grey > >> > > > >>> > > >> gloaming with occasional dappled rays of sun reaching over > >> > the > >> > > > northern > >> > > > >>> > > >> horizon, giving the city a mystical quality even in the > >> > > > supposed dead of night. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> The dates of Ramadan change according to the lunar > >> > > > >>> > > >> calendar, > >> > > > moving > >> > > > >>> > > >> back 11 days each year. That means that by 2015 there will > >> > be > >> > > > no sunset > >> > > > >>> > > >> for a month when Ramadan falls closer to midsummer. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> Still, Kaltouma says "there is going to be at least 10 > >> > minutes > >> > > > for us to break the fast." > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> She said there is one positive aspect of observing long > >> > fasting > >> > > > hours in the Arctic during Ramadan: the cool temperatures. > >> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > > > >>> > > >> "Unlike Africa, here in Finland you don't get thirsty > >> > often. 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