Orang mau percaya apa ga omongan gua, silakan aja. Yg penting adalah gua udah ngomong, kalo ada yg ga percaya, itu resikonya sendiri, gua udah ga tanggung jawab lagi.
On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini <[email protected]> wrote: > Goyim tolol > Kibulan elu kagak laku diPROL > > jangan ajarin bebek berenang. > > > > ________________________________ > From: itemabu2 <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 10:21 PM > Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > > Lu ini tololnya minta ampun, sampe lu ga tau bhw Tabari dll itu kadang > ngutip ocehan beberapa orang yg isinya berbeda. > > Quran bilang halal ngembat anak ingusan. Ga ada tuh di CNN atau MNBC > or whatever, cuma ada di Quran. Omong kosong jadinya nurut ocehan lu > sendiri, bukan? > > > > On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini <[email protected]> wrote: >> Goyim tolol >> >> Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) dilahirkan oleh >> istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila Aisyah >> dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur >> di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad dalam >> umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: “Asmah 10 >> tahun lebih tua dari Aisyah.”[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, Asmah >> hidup hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 Hijriyah.[5] >> Apabila Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam tahun >> 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu >> Hijrah, sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun >> pada waktu Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga dengan >> Muhammad >> pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. >> Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan bahwa >> dirinya dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] >> Pandangan ini juga berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: itemabu2 <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:41 PM >> Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married >> Aisha >> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >> >> Menurut Tabari >> >> “My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two >> branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with >> some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped >> so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was >> sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The >> other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his >> marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a >> camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me.” >> Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 131 >> >> >> >> On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Goyim tolol >>> >>> Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) dilahirkan oleh >>> istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila Aisyah >>> dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur >>> di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad dalam >>> umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: “Asmah 10 >>> tahun >>> lebih tua dari Aisyah.”[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, Asmah hidup >>> hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 Hijriyah.[5] >>> Apabila >>> Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam tahun >>> 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu >>> Hijrah, >>> sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun pada waktu >>> Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga dengan Muhammad >>> pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. >>> Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan bahwa >>> dirinya >>> dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] Pandangan ini >>> juga >>> berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: itemabu2 <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:31 PM >>> Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married >>> Aisha >>> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >>> >>> Narrated Aisha: "The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six >>> (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith >>> bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair >>> grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing >>> in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to >>> her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the >>> hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless >>> then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water and >>> rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. >>> There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and >>> Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and >>> they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came >>> to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that >>> time I was a girl of nine years of age. >>> Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234 >>> >>> >>> On 2/3/13, Musik hari Ini <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Goyim tolol >>>> >>>> kagak ada di CNN atau msnbc.....referesi dari jahatwatch >>>> >>>> kebanyakan bohong nya sama kayak elu dkk >>>> >>>> isinya total fitnahan. >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: itemabu2 <[email protected]> >>>> To: proletar <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 5:01 PM >>>> Subject: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha >>>> when >>>> she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >>>> >>>> Ulama Saudi ngeluarin fatwa spy bayi perempuan hrs make jilbab unt >>>> ngelindungi bayi tsb dr pemerkosaan oleh orang2 Islam. Ga aneh, krn >>>> nabi itu jg doyan anak ingusan dan nabi adalah contoh yg baik unt >>>> orang Islam, maka bayi perempuan itu emang hrs dilindungi dr nabi dan >>>> orang2 Islam yg soleh pengikut nabi. >>>> >>>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he >>>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first time, >>>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our model." >>>> >>>> Hehehe... suri tauladan orang Islam itu adalah nabi yg kawin dgn anak >>>> 6 thn dan ngembat si anak di usia 9 thn. Islam itu emang agama yg >>>> benar, benar2 bejad. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/06/saudi-marriage-officiant-muhammad-married-aisha-when-she-was-six-and-had-sex-with-her-when-she-was-n.html >>>> >>>> Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha when she was six >>>> and had sex with her when she was nine >>>> >>>> Over the years I've gotten a great deal of abuse for telling the truth >>>> about Islam and jihad here, but probably more for pointing out that >>>> Islamic tradition says that Muhammad married Aisha when she was six >>>> and consummated the marriage when she was nine, and that he is >>>> exemplary in this for Islamic law, than for anything else. See, to >>>> take just one of many examples, here. Of course, the righteous >>>> indignation over my alleged misrepresentation of this issue is simply >>>> another manifestation of the general deceptive smokescreen that >>>> Islamic supremacists deploy in the West. >>>> >>>> But this MEMRI clip proves the only point I have ever wanted to make >>>> about this issue: that Muhammad's example in this has been taken and >>>> is still taken as worthy of imitation. >>>> >>>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mub'i, a Saudi Marriage Officiant: It Is Allowed to >>>> Marry a Girl at the Age of One, If Sex Is Postponed. The Prophet >>>> Muhammad, Whose Model We Follow, Married 'Aisha When She Was Six and >>>> Had Sex with Her When She Was Nine," from MEMRITV, June 19 (thanks to >>>> all who sent this in): >>>> >>>> Following are excerpts from an interview with Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi, >>>> a Saudi marriage officiant, which aired on LBC TV on June 19, 2008: >>>> >>>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: Marriage is actually two things: First we are >>>> talking about the marriage contract itself. This is one thing, while >>>> consummating the marriage – having sex with the wife for the first >>>> time – is another thing. There is no minimal age for entering >>>> marriage. You can have a marriage contract even with a one-year-old >>>> girl, not to mention a girl of nine, seven, or eight. This is merely a >>>> contract [indicating] consent. The guardian in such a case must be the >>>> father, because the father's opinion is obligatory. Thus, the girl >>>> becomes a wife... But is the girl ready for sex or not? What is the >>>> appropriate age for having sex for the first time? This varies >>>> according to environment and traditions. In Yemen, girls are married >>>> off at nine, ten, eleven, eight, or thirteen, while in other >>>> countries, they are married off at 16. Some countries have legislated >>>> laws forbidding having sex before the girl is eighteen. >>>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>>> The Prophet Muhammad is the model we follow. He took 'Aisha to be >>>> his wife when she was six, but he had sex with her only when she was >>>> nine. >>>> >>>> Interviewer: When she was six... >>>> >>>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he >>>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first time, >>>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our model. >>>> >>>> Interviewer: My question to you is whether the marriage of a >>>> 12-year-old boy with an 11-year-old girl is a logical marriage, which >>>> is permitted by Islamic law. >>>> >>>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: If the guardian is the father... There are two >>>> different types of guardianship. If the guardian is the father, and he >>>> marries his daughter off to a man of appropriate standing, the >>>> marriage is obviously valid. >>>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>>> People find themselves in all kinds of circumstances. Take, for >>>> example, a man who has two, three, or four daughters. He does not have >>>> any wives, but he needs to go on a trip. Isn't it better to marry his >>>> daughter to a man, who will protect and sustain her, and when she >>>> reaches the proper age, he will have sex with her? Who says all men >>>> are ferocious wolves? >>>> >>>> Yeah! >>>> Posted by Robert on June 25, 2008 8:47 AM | 42 Comments >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Post message: [email protected] >>>> Subscribe : [email protected] >>>> Unsubscribe : [email protected] >>>> List owner : [email protected] >>>> Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Post message: [email protected] >>> Subscribe : [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe : [email protected] >>> List owner : [email protected] >>> Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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