dulu sahabat nabi kaga tau nulis kisah nabi seperti itu bakalan jadi aib buat si nabi dimasa datang...makanya orang islam sekarang pada kelojotan nutup2in-nya....hehehehehe......
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Jack Fanotona <[email protected]>wrote: > ** > > > Itu siih ah jelas, si Aisyah di 'Embat' pertama kali umur 6 - 9 tahun. nah > sekarang karna kitab suci juga di selidiki kebenarannya > maka 'diputar-putar', 'dicari-cari' alasan pembenarannya. > > Kalau Aisyah di 'Embat' pertama kali umur 13 tahun itu dah ketuaan untuk > ukuran seorang laki2. dah 'layu' > > ________________________________ > Dari: itemabu2 [email protected]> > Kepada: [email protected] > Dikirim: Selasa, 5 Februari 2013 10:25 > Judul: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > > > Islam menghalalkan ngembat anak ingusan, termasuk yg belum mens. > Apakah orang Islam mempraktekkannya apa ga, harusnya ajaran Islam itu > dilarang krn ngajarin kebejadan. > > Orang Islam boleh ga mraktekin pedophilia tsb, tp kalo ada yg > melakukannya dgn berdalih Quran dan sunnah menghalalkannya, ga ada > orang Islam yg bisa menyalahkannya secara agama, krn memang Islam > ngehalalin. > > Jadi, Islam itu hrs dilarang beredar sama sekali. > > On 2/5/13, Gabriella Rantau [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Umm Mukminun, si imut2 Aisha sendiri mengatakan bhw dia umur 6 (enam) > tahun > > waktu Rasulullah datang ke rumah ortunya untuk MENULIS kontrak > perkawinan. > > > > Aisha sendiri dlm hadist lain menyatakan bhw dia berumur 9 (sembilan) > tahun > > ketika dia dibawa oleh ibunya ke rumah (tenda?) Rasulullah di sore hari. > > Hadist lain mengisahkan Aisha berkata: 'Aku belumpernah seKAGET itu > sampai > > ketika Rasulullaah 'memasuki' aku. > > > > Selama beratus tahun umat Islam tidak pernah peduli umur berapa si Imut2 > > dilamar, ditiduri oleh Rasulullah. Dengan banyaknya non-Muslim > mempelajari > > Qur'an dan ahadeeth dan mulai bertanya2, baru banyak Islamic apologists > > mengatakan bhw Aisha ditiduri umur 13 sampaiu dengan umur 18. > > > > SEmuanya sudah lewat. Yg penting semoga Muslims tidak lagi mempraktikkan > > kebiasaan tak terpuji ini. > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Musik hari Ini [email protected]> > > To: "[email protected]" [email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013 10:43 AM > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married > Aisha > > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > > > > > > > > Goyim tolol > > > > Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) dilahirkan oleh > > istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila Aisyah > > dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur > > di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad dalam > > umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: Asmah 10 > > tahun lebih tua dari Aisyah.[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, Asmah > > hidup hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 Hijriyah.[5] > > Apabila Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam tahun > > 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu > > Hijrah, sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun > > pada waktu Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga dengan > > Muhammad > > pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. > > Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan bahwa > > dirinya dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] > > Pandangan ini juga berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: itemabu2 [email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:41 PM > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married > Aisha > > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > > > > Menurut Tabari > > > > My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two > > branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with > > some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped > > so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was > > sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The > > other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his > > marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a > > camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me. > > Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 131 > > > > On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini [email protected]> wrote: > >> Goyim tolol > >> > >> Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) dilahirkan oleh > >> istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila Aisyah > >> dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur > >> di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad dalam > >> umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: Asmah 10 > >> tahun > >> lebih tua dari Aisyah.[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, Asmah hidup > >> hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 Hijriyah.[5] > Apabila > >> Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam tahun > >> 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu > >> Hijrah, > >> sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun pada waktu > >> Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga dengan Muhammad > >> pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. > >> Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan bahwa > >> dirinya > >> dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] Pandangan ini > >> juga > >> berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: itemabu2 [email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] > >> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:31 PM > >> Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married > >> Aisha > >> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > >> > >> Narrated Aisha: "The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six > >> (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith > >> bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair > >> grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing > >> in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to > >> her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the > >> hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless > >> then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water and > >> rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. > >> There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and > >> Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and > >> they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came > >> to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that > >> time I was a girl of nine years of age. > >> Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234 > >> > >> > >> On 2/3/13, Musik hari Ini [email protected]> wrote: > >>> Goyim tolol > >>> > >>> kagak ada di CNN atau msnbc.....referesi dari jahatwatch > >>> > >>> kebanyakan bohong nya sama kayak elu dkk > >>> > >>> isinya total fitnahan. > >>> > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> From: itemabu2 [email protected]> > >>> To: proletar [email protected]> > >>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 5:01 PM > >>> Subject: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha > >>> when > >>> she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > >>> > >>> Ulama Saudi ngeluarin fatwa spy bayi perempuan hrs make jilbab unt > >>> ngelindungi bayi tsb dr pemerkosaan oleh orang2 Islam. Ga aneh, krn > >>> nabi itu jg doyan anak ingusan dan nabi adalah contoh yg baik unt > >>> orang Islam, maka bayi perempuan itu emang hrs dilindungi dr nabi dan > >>> orang2 Islam yg soleh pengikut nabi. > >>> > >>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he > >>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first time, > >>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our model." > >>> > >>> Hehehe... suri tauladan orang Islam itu adalah nabi yg kawin dgn anak > >>> 6 thn dan ngembat si anak di usia 9 thn. Islam itu emang agama yg > >>> benar, benar2 bejad. > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/06/saudi-marriage-officiant-muhammad-married-aisha-when-she-was-six-and-had-sex-with-her-when-she-was-n.html > >>> > >>> Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha when she was six > >>> and had sex with her when she was nine > >>> > >>> Over the years I've gotten a great deal of abuse for telling the truth > >>> about Islam and jihad here, but probably more for pointing out that > >>> Islamic tradition says that Muhammad married Aisha when she was six > >>> and consummated the marriage when she was nine, and that he is > >>> exemplary in this for Islamic law, than for anything else. See, to > >>> take just one of many examples, here. Of course, the righteous > >>> indignation over my alleged misrepresentation of this issue is simply > >>> another manifestation of the general deceptive smokescreen that > >>> Islamic supremacists deploy in the West. > >>> > >>> But this MEMRI clip proves the only point I have ever wanted to make > >>> about this issue: that Muhammad's example in this has been taken and > >>> is still taken as worthy of imitation. > >>> > >>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mub'i, a Saudi Marriage Officiant: It Is Allowed to > >>> Marry a Girl at the Age of One, If Sex Is Postponed. The Prophet > >>> Muhammad, Whose Model We Follow, Married 'Aisha When She Was Six and > >>> Had Sex with Her When She Was Nine," from MEMRITV, June 19 (thanks to > >>> all who sent this in): > >>> > >>> Following are excerpts from an interview with Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi, > >>> a Saudi marriage officiant, which aired on LBC TV on June 19, 2008: > >>> > >>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: Marriage is actually two things: First we are > >>> talking about the marriage contract itself. This is one thing, while > >>> consummating the marriage having sex with the wife for the first > >>> time is another thing. There is no minimal age for entering > >>> marriage. You can have a marriage contract even with a one-year-old > >>> girl, not to mention a girl of nine, seven, or eight. This is merely a > >>> contract [indicating] consent. The guardian in such a case must be the > >>> father, because the father's opinion is obligatory. Thus, the girl > >>> becomes a wife... But is the girl ready for sex or not? What is the > >>> appropriate age for having sex for the first time? This varies > >>> according to environment and traditions. In Yemen, girls are married > >>> off at nine, ten, eleven, eight, or thirteen, while in other > >>> countries, they are married off at 16. Some countries have legislated > >>> laws forbidding having sex before the girl is eighteen. > >>> > >>> [...] > >>> > >>> The Prophet Muhammad is the model we follow. He took 'Aisha to be > >>> his wife when she was six, but he had sex with her only when she was > >>> nine. > >>> > >>> Interviewer: When she was six... > >>> > >>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he > >>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first time, > >>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our model. > >>> > >>> Interviewer: My question to you is whether the marriage of a > >>> 12-year-old boy with an 11-year-old girl is a logical marriage, which > >>> is permitted by Islamic law. > >>> > >>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: If the guardian is the father... There are two > >>> different types of guardianship. If the guardian is the father, and he > >>> marries his daughter off to a man of appropriate standing, the > >>> marriage is obviously valid. > >>> > >>> [...] > >>> > >>> People find themselves in all kinds of circumstances. Take, for > >>> example, a man who has two, three, or four daughters. He does not have > >>> any wives, but he needs to go on a trip. Isn't it better to marry his > >>> daughter to a man, who will protect and sustain her, and when she > >>> reaches the proper age, he will have sex with her? Who says all men > >>> are ferocious wolves? > >>> > >>> Yeah! > >>> Posted by Robert on June 25, 2008 8:47 AM | 42 Comments > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------ > >>> > >>> Post message: [email protected] > >>> Subscribe : [email protected] > >>> Unsubscribe : [email protected] > >>> List owner : [email protected] > >>> Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------ > >> > >> Post message: [email protected] > >> Subscribe : [email protected] > >> Unsubscribe : [email protected] > >> List owner : [email protected] > >> Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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