yah .. begitulah ... standar kapasitas yg dijadikan cuman otaknya jusfiq sj .. jadi menurutnya gak mungkin ayat yg ribuan itu bisa dihafal .. padahal, rasulullah memang memberi semangat pada kaum muslim untuk menghafalnya .. sesuai dengan arti quran sendiri, yg salah satu artinya adalah recitation atau hafalan ...
jadi kesimpulan holyland memang tepat ... some quotes: Robert Hoyland : the historical memory of the Muslim community is more robust than some have claimed. John Burton: What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad. jadi tidak ada ruang lagi untuk memperdebatkan lagi keotentikan al quran.. al quran itu solid, dan tidak diragukan lagi bahwa itu kalam Ilahi.. bahwa quran jaman onta sama dengan jaman dimana orang dungu sudah bisa ngepost email di kampung petar ... --- In [email protected], "hadjar_wish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pernyataan bahwa "the historical memory of the Muslim community is > more robust than some have claimed. " hanyalah sekedar omongan yang > tidak berbukti. > > > --- In [email protected], "hadingrh" <hadingrh@> wrote: > > > > sekali lagi, kesimpulan akhirnya kita bisa baca dari apa yg dikatakan > > Robert Hoyland : > > > > Firstly, we do have a number of bodies of evidence - especially > > non-Muslim sources, papyri, inscriptions and archaeological > > excavations - that can serve as a useful external referent and whose > > riches are only just beginning to be exploited in a systematic manner. > > Secondly, the historical memory of the Muslim community is more robust > > than some have claimed. For example, many of the deities, kings and > > tribes of the pre-Islamic Arabs that are depicted by ninth-century > > Muslim historians also feature in the epigraphic record, as do many of > > the rulers and governors of the early Islamic state. This makes it > > difficult to see how historical scenarios that require for their > > acceptance a total discontinuity in the historical memory of the > > Muslim community - such as that Muhammad did not exist, the Qur'an was > > not written in Arabic, Mecca was originally in a different place etc. > > - can really be justified. Many of these scenarios rely on absence of > > evidence, but it seems a shame to make such a recourse when there are > > so many very vocal forms of material evidence still waiting to be > studied. > > > > > > some quotes: > > quran mempunyai arti dasar yaitu hafalan, dan karena ayat2 yg diterima > > pada sang nabi datang secara gradual, dan dipraktekan langsung dalam > > kehidupan sehari2 (baik dalam bacaan shalat maupun dalam tindakan > > lainnya) shg memudahkan untuk diingat oleh pengikutnya.. > > Robert Hoyland : > > the historical memory of the Muslim community is more robust than some > > have claimed. > > > > John Burton: > > What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad. > > > > jadi tidak ada ruang lagi untuk memperebatkan lagi keotentikan al > > quran.. al quran itu solid, dan tidak diragukan lagi bahwa itu kalam > > Ilahi.. > > bahwa quran jaman onta sama dengan jaman dimana orang dungu sudah bisa > > ngepost email di kampung petar ... > > > Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
