"hadingrh" ini jelas nggak cerdas dan berpengetahuan dangkal. Pertama, saya lagi bicara tentang dukungan Böwering dan van Reeth terhadap tulisan Luxenberg. Kedua Wansbrough nggak bilang dia setuju dengan kesimpulan Burton.
--- In [email protected], "hadingrh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > jadi memang senang sekali memutar balik fakta ... > > pendapat wansbrough mengenai thesis dr. john burton, the collection of > the qur'an: > > this remarkable work is the fruit of many years' study, much > discussion, and not a little tenacity. to my persistent efforts at > demolition, or at least modification of his thesis, dr. burton has > reacted by seeking even closer definition and more extensive > documentation. its final form is truly impressive. > > some quotes: > Robert Hoyland : > the historical memory of the Muslim community is more robust than some > have claimed. > > John Burton: > What we have today in our hands is the Mushaf of Muhammad. > > jadi tidak ada ruang lagi untuk memperebatkan lagi keotentikan al > quran.. al quran itu solid, dan tidak diragukan lagi bahwa itu kalam > Ilahi.. > bahwa quran jaman onta sama dengan jaman dimana orang dungu sudah bisa > ngepost email di kampung petar ... > > --- In [email protected], "hadjar_wish" <hadjar@> wrote: > > > > Ni orang jelas udah kalap... > > > > Lha Böwering ngasih kuliah (dan interpiu di koran NRC-Handelsblad) > > akhir tahun 2005 van Reeth nulis tahun akhir tahun 2006... > > > > Dan mereka mendukung Luxenberg. > > > > > Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
