"rezameutia" itu orang aneh... Saya suka mengirim berita tentang manfaat khamar dan dia fitnah saya alkoholik...
Saya sering membetulkan tulisan saya yang salah ketik lalu difitnah saya junkie... --- In [email protected], "sentosaaman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "rezameutia" <rezameutia@> wrote: > > > > itu bukan fakta mediteran. itu sih emang kebiasaan orang eropa > > selatan minumnya anggur dan orang eropa utara minumnya bir. bukannya > > orang mediteran minum wine untuk mencegah penyakit jantung. > --------------------------------------- > > Fakta adalah sesuatu kenyataan dan kenyataan bhw. 1) penduduk > mediteran secara teratur minum wine merah 2) dari statistik mereka > (hampir) tidak mengenal penyakit darah tinggi /penyakit jantung. > > > Kalau mau tau, itulah yg dinamakan fakta2. > Dari fakta2 itu ditarik kesimpulan oleh penyelidik, bhw ada kaitan > antara fakta2 itu. > > Dari sini terlihat bhw. kamu ( saya tidak pakai kata "ente", karena > saya punya bahasa sendiri,bahasa Indonesia sbg bahasa saya ) ini tidak > serius dalam menanggapi suatu tulisan yg kamu baca, atau kamu belum > bisa mengerti jika membaca sesuatu dalam bahasa Indonesia. Dalam > ulasan saya , tak ada kata2/kalimat yg bisa disimpulkan bhw penduduk > mediteran SENGAJA minum wine untuk mencegah penyakit jantung. > Yang ada adalah fakta2 diatas. > ---------------------------------------- > > ><rezameutia@> wrote: > > > apa pernah ada hasil seminar jantung atau kumpulan ahli penyakit > > jantung yang merekomendasikan minum wine untuk mencegah penyakit > > jantung? kalo memang wine bisa mencegah penyakit jantung, kenapa > > nggak ditulis di botol winenya sekalian? seperti peringatan rokok? > > > > sekarang juga banyak tulisan 'ilmiah' yang mengatakan bahwa marijuana > > baik untuk kesehatan. lalu, ente mau percaya tulisan 'ilmiah' tentang > > marijuana begitu aja, kayak jusfiq? > > > > coba aja dateng ke anonymous alcoholic rehab, klub para alkoholik yang > > mau melepaskan diri dari ketergantungan alkohol. tanya lah di klub > > ini, kalo 2 gelas alkohol sehari alkoholik nggak? > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Untuk menambah pengetahuan kamu secara umum, kamu bisa membaca2 link2 > dibawah ini ( mudah2an kamu bisa mengerti apa maksud dan isi dari > artikel2 yg tertulis ), banyak laporan dari Kongres Cardiologi sedunia : > > > > Kalau belum puas, cari sendiri per Google: " cardiology hdl moderate > consumption alcohol ". > > > http://nutra-smart.net/redwine.htm > > http://pt.wkhealth.com/pt/re/sevm/abstract.00134425-200404020-00011.htm;jsessionid=HXpbTL3CxBh2zVPRVRJBQJhLmXY2GcjDXk2g0VgT2y2kDXqvQkxp!-1601909834!181195629!8091!-1 > > > http://www.cvspectrum.org/cms/templates/conference.aspx?articleid=8782&zoneid=61 > ( The World Congress of Cardiology 2006 has been convened (September > 2-6) in Barcelona ) > > > yg a.l. ditulis: > > > NUTRITION, ALCOHOL, AND COFFEE > Unlike smoking, nuts and alcohol are here to stay in Europe as studies > continue to tout their CV benefits. The association of nut intake and > coronary heart disease mortality was examined in 399,633 subjects > enrolled in the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and > Nutrition (EPIC) study, a large prospective cohort of subjects > recruited from 23 centers in 10 different European countries. The > study, presented by Dr. Joan Sabaté of Loma Linda, California, United > States on behalf of the EPIC Group, confirmed that nut intake is > associated with a decreased risk of coronary heart disease mortality, > with a 40% reduction (HR 0.60; 95% CI, 0.430.83) when comparing the > highest (>13g/day) and the lowest (<1g/day) nut-intake categories, and > this remained even after adjustments for coronary risk factors and > dietary variables (HR 0.71; 95% CI, 0.510.98). Dr. Sabaté estimated > that in a population where approximately half rarely consume nuts, an > intake of only 2 servings of nuts per week (8g/day) may reduce > coronary heart disease mortality by 11%. > The benefits of moderate alcohol consumption continue to be > elucidated. Observational studies demonstrate that moderate alcohol > consumption improves the prognosis in coronary artery disease (CAD). > The increase in high-density lipoprotein cholesterol (HDL-C) and > beneficial effects on blood clotting are some of the possible > explanations. Now, moderate alcohol consumption has been shown to > improve arterial elasticity in patients with CAD. This study, > presented by Dr. Magorzata Kurpesa of Lodz, Poland, used pulse wave > velocity (PWV) as an indirect, noninvasive assessment of the > mechanical properties of arteries in 46 patients with stable CAD who > rarely consumed alcohol. After PWV measurement, 26 of the patients > started consuming 1 to 2 alcoholic beverages per day and the remaining > 20 did not change their alcohol intake. After a 6-month follow-up > period, the PWV in the control group remained unchanged, whereas that > in the group consuming alcohol significantly decreased (10.5 ± 0.7 > m/sec, P<.05 vs initial). The 2 groups did not differ with regard to > total plasma cholesterol level, but HDL-C was found to be higher in > the group consuming alcohol, although the difference did not achieve > statistical significance. The influence of systematic moderate alcohol > consumption on mechanical properties of arteries could be one of the > possible explanations of its protective effect in CAD. > Moderate alcohol consumption may also impart its benefit on CV risk by > anti-inflammatory effects. A study, presented by Dr. Armin Imhof of > Ulm, Germany, demonstrated that short-term intake of moderate amounts > of alcohol also inhibited monocyte migration in vitro, an important > step in early atherosclerosis. This benefit was seen in > low-concentration ethanol beverages, such as red wine or beer and even > nonalcoholic red wine and beer. Forty-two nonsmoking healthy men and > women aged 22 to 55 years were included in this randomized > intervention study. After a wash-out period of at least 2 weeks, the > participants were randomly assigned to the following interventions for > 3 weeks: either ethanol (concentration 12.5%), beer (5.6%), or red > wine (12.5%) equivalent to 30 g ethanol per day for men and 20 g/day > for women or the same amount of nonalcoholic beer, red wine, or water. > Monocyte migration was inhibited by both consumption of alcoholic and > nonalcoholic beverages compared with consumption of water. Another > study, presented by Dr. J. Dudziak from Bydgoszcz, Poland, showed that > short-term alcohol consumption increases tissue plasminogen activator > (tPA), plasminogen activator inhibitor (PAI), and endothelin-1 plasma > levels in a universal manner, independent of the kind of beverage. The > study group consisted of 57 healthy male volunteers, seminarians of > the Diocesan Theological Seminary, aged 20 to 29 years. All were > nonsmokers and abstainers, and none was taking CV medication or > lipid-lowering agents. Subjects were randomized to consume 300 mL of > either: red wine (Cabernet Sauvignon), white wine (Chardonnay), 14% > ethanol solution, black currant juice. or water, for 5 days. > Statistically significant differences could only be observed by > consumption of alcohol of any kind; the type of alcohol had no impact > on final results. CRP levels were not shown to be affected by > consumption of any sort of beverage. > Another study suggested still another possible mechanism by which > moderate alcohol consumption may lower the risk of CHD. Recently, it > had been suggested that the alcohol metabolizing enzyme, alcohol > dehydrogenase 3 (ADH3 or ADH1C), modifies the association between > alcohol consumption and CHD risk. These data, from the > population-based MONICA/KORA study, as presented by Dr. J. Heidrich of > Muenster, Germany, suggest that genetic variation in alcohol > dehydrogenase may determine the amount of benefit of alcohol > consumption. Alcohol consumption was assessed at baseline among 3674 > men and women aged 25 to 74 years, and ADH3 genotype was determined > (y1y1 = fast alcohol metabolism; y1y2 = intermediate alcohol > metabolism; y2y2 = slow alcohol metabolism). Males with either the > homozygote or heterozygote "slow" allele who took 20 g alcohol/day had > a 31% decrease in CHD risk (HR 0.69; 95% CI 0.182.55), suggesting > they may receive greater benefit from moderate alcohol consumption. > > 1. Baigent C, Keech A, Kearney PM, et al. Efficacy and safety of > cholesterol-lowering treatment: prospective meta-analysis of data from > 90,056 participants in 14 randomised trials of statins. Lancet. > 2005;366:1267-1278. > 2. Amarenco P, Bogousslavsky J, Callahan A 3rd, et al. High-dose > atorvastatin after stroke or transient ischemic attack. N Engl J Med. > 2006;355:549-559. > 3. Dormandy JA, Charbonnel B, Eckland DJ, et al. Secondary prevention > of macrovascular events in patients with type 2 diabetes in the > PROactive Study (PROspective pioglitAzone Clinical Trial In > macroVascular Events): a randomised controlled trial. Lancet. > 2005;366:1279-1289. > 4. Lonn E, Yusuf S, Arnold MJ, et al. Homocysteine lowering with folic > acid and B vitamins in vascular disease. N Engl J Med. 2006;354:1567-1577. > 5. De Backer G, Ambrosioni E, Borch-Johnsen K, et al. European > guidelines on cardiovascular disease prevention in clinical practice. > Third Joint Task Force of European and Other Societies on > Cardiovascular Disease Prevention in Clinical Practice. Eur Heart J. > 2003;24:1601-1610. > > > http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=+moderate+alcohol++consumption&btnG=Suche&meta= > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > <rezameutia@> wrote: > > > > > > > akal tuh dipake dong, man. > > > >----------------------------------------------------- > > > Betul sekali, akal dan otak harus dipakai , pertama2 jika membaca > sesuatu harus sedikit berusaha mengerti isi dan maknanya , sehingga > kamu bisa mengulasnya dg baik , tidak asal menulis saja ! > Dan belajarlah sehari2 berbahasa Indonesia yg baik, agar tidak memberi > contoh buruk kpd generasi muda , anak2 Indonesia ! > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Aman Sentosa <sentosaaman@> wrote: > > > > > > Saya baca beberapa tulisan disini yg menyinggung ttg konsum > > alkohol , ada yg menganjurkan, ada yg menentang. > > > Dari artikel2 yg bisa dibaca, baik di bibliothek2 atau dari internet > > per Google, > > > dari studi2 yg telah banyak dilakukan oleh institut2 kesehatan di > > Eropa, Asia dan Amerika, bisa ditarik kesimpulan bahwa alkohol dan > > terutama dari anggur merah , bila dikonsum secara teratur dan/tetapi > > tidak excesiv , akan sangat membantu menjaga kesehatan, terutama dlm > > melawan penyakit jantung dan tekanan darah tinggi. > > > Alkohol dari wine merah bagi rakyat Eropa Selatan ( daerah Mediteran > > : Itali,Perancis Selatan,Spanyol,Portugal, Balkan dll ), adalah > > minuman sehari2 yg mereka konsum secara teratur, terutama sbg teman > > makan malam. Dan apa kenyataan yg ada? Penyakit jantung yg disebabkan > > tekanan darah tinggi pada penduduk daerah tsb diatas boleh dikata > > tidak dikenal !!! Mereka rata2 sangat sehat dipandang dari segi > > penyakit jantung . > > > > > > Alkohol, terutama dalam bentuk wine merah mengandung element yg > > sangat bermanfaat bagi darah kita, dia mengandung zat2 ANTIOXIDANT yg > > melindungi dinding cel2 kita dari zat radikal bebas ( ozon : O atau O3 > > ) yg bisa merusak dinding cel2 dg mengoxidasinya. Disamping itu zat yg > > terkandung di wine merah itu mempunyai sifat membantu menaikkan > > konsentrasi HDL (cholesterol "baik") didalam darah sekaligus > > mengurangi konsentrasi LDL( cholesterol "jelek/jahat" ). > > > Sebetulnya HDL dan LDL sendiri bukanlah cholesterol, tetapi molekul2 > > protein yg bisa mengangkut cholesterol , LDL mengangkut cholesterol ke > > cel2 tubuh, terutama yg penting dalam hal ini ke pembuluh2 darah, > > sedang HDL mengangkut kembali cholesterol yg berkelebihan kembali ke > hati. > > > Maka makin banyak molekul2 HDL dan makin sedikit molekul2 LDL dalam > > tubuh seseorang, makin sehatlah orang itu, karena cholesterol yg > > bekelebihan dan terkumpul di dinding2 pembuluh darah yg akibatnya bisa > > menyumbat pembuluh darah itu, akan diangkut kembali ke hati oleh HDL . > > > > > > Buat penduduk mediteran, wine merah ini merupakan tameng ajaib dlm > > melawan penyakit darah tinggi. Bukan hanya itu saja, penyakit diabetes > > dan batu ginjal juga merupakan penyakit sangat langka didaerah2 tsb > > diatas. > > > > > > Dg sendirinya, PENYALAH GUNAAN konsum alkohol adalah hal yg tidak > > bertanggung jawab, baik bagi diri sendiri maupun bagi orang lain yg > > kena dampak penyalah gunaan itu ( perkelahian,agresivitas,kecelakaan > > lalu lintas dll,dll).!!!!!! > > > > > > Menurut statistik, maka grafik antara risiko terkena penyakit > > jantung dan diabetes (sbg sumbu Y) dibandingkan dg konsum alkohol ( > > sbg sumbu X ) adalah berbentuk grafik parabola yg terbuka keatas, > > artinya titik extrem ( dlm hal ini titik minimum) ada dibawah, dan > > dinyatakan titik minimum itu adalah konsum alkohol 22-32 g /hari. > > > Jika wine merah itu mempunyai kadar alkohol 10-12%, maka konsum yg > > paling optimal adalah 200 cc sampai 300 cc wine merah. Ini berarti 1 > > sampai 2 gelas > > > wine tiap hari. > > > Maka benarlah apa yg tertulis, bhw. konsum alkohol ( terutama wine > > merah ) k.l. 2 gelas /hari itu sehat , dan bukanlah alkoholik ! Sebab > > kalau itu alkoholik, maka semua penduduk daerah mediteran adalah > > alkoholik semua, hal ini tak benar, sebab daerah2 itu banyak > > melahirkan tokoh2 dunia, baik dibidang ilmu pengetahuan alam (natural > > science) maupun dibidang politik dan ekonomi ! > > > > > > Maka janganlah hanya menuruti aturan2 atau reka2 atau kepercayaan > > kuno yg tidak ilmiah ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > > Try it now. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! 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