Alasan mayoritas "merasa" adalah tidak cukup, harus ada inti alasannya yang membuat Ahmadiah dinyatakan menyeleweng? Bagaimana dengan masalah antara Shia dan Suni dimana mereka saling bunuh-bunuhan, membom mesjid tanpa mengabaikan umat lagi salat dalam mesjid tsb. Di Indonesia pun telah ada suara yang menyatakan bhawa Shia aliran yang tidak betul dan patut dilarang seperti Ahmadiah.
Siapa yang berhak menyatakan kebenaran sesuatu aliran apabila aliran-aliran tsb memakai kitab yang sama? ----- Original Message ----- From: Abbas To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:27 AM Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' in Darfur Itu kelompok mayoritas merasa bahwa ahmadiyyah bukan Islam ! nah kalau demikian makin banyak penyeleweng Islam bukan ?! --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: > > Hehehe.... orang Ahmadiyah dibantai tuh oleh sesama muslim. Apa orang Islam > tukang bantainya ga ngikutin jalan yg benar? > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 4:10:52 PM > Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' in Darfur > > > Bukan ! Mereka berbunuh karena perang antar kelompok ! > seperti DULU Khatolik lawan Protestan ! > Maka Tuhan pun menurunkan azabnya kepada mereka yang saling berperang antar umat > Islam ! Mana mereka maju bukan !? Karena apa ? Karena mereka sudah tidak > mengikuti lagi jalan yang BENAR ! > > --- In [email protected], "bukan.pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > Beda orang Islam berbunuhan, seperti antara syiah dan sunni, atau membunuh > >seperti yang dilakukan olen al-Qaeda dll. adalah bahwa mereka membunuh karena > >alasan teologis, sesuai dengan pemahaman ajaran mereka. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> wrote: > > > > > > Bunuh membunuh bukan hanya di Islam saja Bung ! Sudah begitu, kalau dia > >BENAR2 Uslamnya ; maka pembunuhan akan dijaga benar karena itu termasuk DOSA > >BESAR ! kalaupun dilakukan mungkin saja dia sudah keluar Islamnya !!! > > > Jadi memang Islam rahmat lil alamiin. Orangnya !??? Pasti saja banyak juga > >yang maling TV dlsb. Tapi bukan karena Islamnya ; tetapi kehabisan duit karena > >sudah dirampok ORANG KAPIR !!!! > > > Orang Kapir anak buah DAWKINS itulah penyebab segala kerusuhan didunia ini ! > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "bukan.pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dimana-mana orang Islam itu demen membunuh.. > > > > > > > > Dan masih ada orang Islam yang sanggup bilang agama Islam itu rahmat > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > Africa > > > > Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' in Darfur > > > > Dozens of fighters reported dead in west, as monitoring group says > >satellite > > > > images show north's army massing in south. > > > > Last Modified: 19 Jun 2011 23:57 > > > > > > > > Fighters from the Sudan Liberation Army (SLA) in Darfur, in the west of > >Sudan, > > > > have said that the north's Sudan Armed Forces (SAF) has attacked them with > >war > > > > planes and military vehicles. > > > > > > > > The SLA said the attacks resulted in 27 deaths, 40 injuries and the > >displacement > > > > of thousands of people. > > > > > > > > The reports come as satellite images appeared to show the north Sudanese > > > > military massing in the southern border state of Kordofan, a monitoring > >group > > > > said. > > > > > > > > Southern Kordofan, on the ill-defined border with the south, is among > >several > > > > flashpoints as Sudan's south prepares to secede on July 9, a move analysts > >say > > > > could embolden fighters in other parts of the country. > > > > > > > > The SAF confirmed it had clashed with fighters in Darfur on Sunday in the > > > > mountainous Jabel Marra region, but said it had not used aircraft and the > > > > fighting had not displaced civilians. > > > > > > > > Ibrahim al-Helwu, a spokesperson for SLA, the said the violence began when > > > > government troops advanced from the Darfur settlements of Kas and Nyala. > > > > > > > > He said 27 people, including 19 civilians, were killed and about 40 > wounded > > > > after an assault by land troops as well as Antonov and MiG aircraft. > > > > > > > > "From the morning, the government started to attack," Helwu said, speaking > >by > > > > phone from Paris. "More than 10,000 civilians are displaced from this > >area". > > > > > > > > The northern army said the fighting in the Jabel Marra region had caused > an > > > > unconfirmed number of casualties on both sides and that no civilians had > >been > > > > harmed. > > > > > > > > Violence in Darfur, where mostly non-Arab fighters are fighting government > > > > troops and largely Arab armed groups, has fallen from its peak in 2003 and > >2004, > > > > but a surge in attacks since December has forced tens of thousands to > flee. > > > > > > > > The International Criminal Court has issued an arrest warrant for Omar > >Hassan > > > > al-Bashir, the Sudanese president, on charges of masterminding genocide and > >war > > > > crimes in Darfur. > > > > > > > > Khartoum refuses to recognise the court. The UN says as many as 300,000 > >people > > > > have died during the conflict in Darfur. Khartoum puts the death toll at > >10,000. > > > > > > > > Thousands dispaced > > > > > > > > The Satellite Sentinel Project (SSP), which monitors Sudan, said on Sunday > >that > > > > new imagery from Friday showed that the SAF controlled Kadugli, the capital > >of > > > > Southern Kordofan, and that thousands of civilians had been displaced. > > > > > > > > The images "show a massing of SAF artillery, light vehicles and heavy > >transports > > > > of the kinds used to carry tanks, troops, and munitions," it said. > > > > > > > > Fighting between the SAF and southern-aligned groups has spread across the > > > > north-run oil state since June 5. > > > > > > > > Tens of thousands of people have fled the area, according to the UN. > > > > > > > > Al-Sawarmi Khaled, an SAF spokesperson, said: "We are now fighting harder > >to > > > > control all the area in Southern Kordofan." > > > > > > > > The SSP, Set up last year by Hollywood actor George Clooney and other > >activists, > > > > says it seeks to head off renewed fighting and atrocities in Sudan by > >publishing > > > > commercial satellite images collated and analysed with the help of a UN > >agency. > > > > > > > > Southern Kordofan, the main oil-producing state that will be left in the > >north > > > > after the south secedes, is home to thousands of fighters who fought > >against > > > > Khartoum during the last civil war, many of them from the Nuba mountains > >region. > > > > > > > > Officials with the south's dominant Sudan People's Liberation Movement > >(SPLA) > > > > say clashes started when the north tried to disarm fighters there. > > > > > > > > Northern officials blame southern-aligned groups for provoking the > fighting > > > > after an official from the north's ruling National Congress Party was > named > > > > winner of a state gubernatorial election last month. > > > > > > > > In Khartoum, 16 political activists said they were detained for about four > >hours > > > > on Sunday after attempting to stage a demonstration against violence in > >Southern > > > > Kordofan. > > > > > > > > The south voted to secede in a January referendum promised in a 2005 peace > >deal > > > > that ended decades of civil war. > > > > > > > > At least seven different armed groups are also fighting the southern Juba > > > > government, according to the UN. > > > > Source: > > > > Agencies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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