Siapa yang bilang setuju ! selain tukang Fitnah kau pinternya hanya MENUDUH tanpa DASAR !
--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: > > Jadi si Abbas bilang asal mayoritas, maka yg minoritas itu gpp dibantai krn > pasti salah. > > Kapan nih Shia dibantai di Indonesia krn jadi minoritas? Di Iran, Sunni jg > ditindas koq krn minoritas di sana. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: sunny <ambon@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 2:16:22 PM > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' in > Darfur > > > Alasan mayoritas "merasa" adalah tidak cukup, harus ada inti alasannya yang > membuat Ahmadiah dinyatakan menyeleweng? Bagaimana dengan masalah antara Shia > dan Suni dimana mereka saling bunuh-bunuhan, membom mesjid tanpa mengabaikan > umat lagi salat dalam mesjid tsb. Di Indonesia pun telah ada suara yang > menyatakan bhawa Shia aliran yang tidak betul dan patut dilarang seperti > Ahmadiah. > > Siapa yang berhak menyatakan kebenaran sesuatu aliran apabila aliran-aliran > tsb > memakai kitab yang sama? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Abbas > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:27 AM > Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' in > Darfur > > Itu kelompok mayoritas merasa bahwa ahmadiyyah bukan Islam ! nah kalau > demikian > makin banyak penyeleweng Islam bukan ?! > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > Hehehe.... orang Ahmadiyah dibantai tuh oleh sesama muslim. Apa orang Islam > > tukang bantainya ga ngikutin jalan yg benar? > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 4:10:52 PM > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Aljazeera: Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' in > Darfur > > > > > > Bukan ! Mereka berbunuh karena perang antar kelompok ! > > seperti DULU Khatolik lawan Protestan ! > > Maka Tuhan pun menurunkan azabnya kepada mereka yang saling berperang antar > >umat > > > > Islam ! Mana mereka maju bukan !? Karena apa ? Karena mereka sudah tidak > > mengikuti lagi jalan yang BENAR ! > > > > --- In [email protected], "bukan.pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Beda orang Islam berbunuhan, seperti antara syiah dan sunni, atau > > > membunuh > > >seperti yang dilakukan olen al-Qaeda dll. adalah bahwa mereka membunuh > > >karena > > > >alasan teologis, sesuai dengan pemahaman ajaran mereka. > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bunuh membunuh bukan hanya di Islam saja Bung ! Sudah begitu, kalau dia > > >BENAR2 Uslamnya ; maka pembunuhan akan dijaga benar karena itu termasuk > > >DOSA > > >BESAR ! kalaupun dilakukan mungkin saja dia sudah keluar Islamnya !!! > > > > Jadi memang Islam rahmat lil alamiin. Orangnya !??? Pasti saja banyak > > > > juga > > > >yang maling TV dlsb. Tapi bukan karena Islamnya ; tetapi kehabisan duit > > >karena > > > > >sudah dirampok ORANG KAPIR !!!! > > > > Orang Kapir anak buah DAWKINS itulah penyebab segala kerusuhan didunia > > > > ini > >! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "bukan.pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dimana-mana orang Islam itu demen membunuh.. > > > > > > > > > > Dan masih ada orang Islam yang sanggup bilang agama Islam itu rahmat > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Africa > > > > > Fighters 'killed by Sudanese army' in Darfur > > > > > Dozens of fighters reported dead in west, as monitoring group says > > >satellite > > > > > images show north's army massing in south. > > > > > Last Modified: 19 Jun 2011 23:57 > > > > > > > > > > Fighters from the Sudan Liberation Army (SLA) in Darfur, in the west > > > > > of > > >Sudan, > > > > > have said that the north's Sudan Armed Forces (SAF) has attacked them > >with > > > > >war > > > > > planes and military vehicles. > > > > > > > > > > The SLA said the attacks resulted in 27 deaths, 40 injuries and the > > >displacement > > > > > of thousands of people. > > > > > > > > > > The reports come as satellite images appeared to show the north > > > > > Sudanese > > > > > military massing in the southern border state of Kordofan, a > > > > > monitoring > > >group > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > Southern Kordofan, on the ill-defined border with the south, is among > > >several > > > > > flashpoints as Sudan's south prepares to secede on July 9, a move > >analysts > > > > >say > > > > > could embolden fighters in other parts of the country. > > > > > > > > > > The SAF confirmed it had clashed with fighters in Darfur on Sunday in > the > > > > > mountainous Jabel Marra region, but said it had not used aircraft and > the > > > > > fighting had not displaced civilians. > > > > > > > > > > Ibrahim al-Helwu, a spokesperson for SLA, the said the violence began > >when > > > > > government troops advanced from the Darfur settlements of Kas and > > > > > Nyala. > > > > > > > > > > He said 27 people, including 19 civilians, were killed and about 40 > > wounded > > > > > after an assault by land troops as well as Antonov and MiG aircraft. > > > > > > > > > > "From the morning, the government started to attack," Helwu said, > >speaking > > > > >by > > > > > phone from Paris. "More than 10,000 civilians are displaced from this > > >area". > > > > > > > > > > The northern army said the fighting in the Jabel Marra region had > > > > > caused > > > an > > > > > unconfirmed number of casualties on both sides and that no civilians > > > > > had > > > >been > > > > > harmed. > > > > > > > > > > Violence in Darfur, where mostly non-Arab fighters are fighting > >government > > > > > troops and largely Arab armed groups, has fallen from its peak in > > > > > 2003 > >and > > > > >2004, > > > > > but a surge in attacks since December has forced tens of thousands to > > flee. > > > > > > > > > > The International Criminal Court has issued an arrest warrant for > > > > > Omar > > >Hassan > > > > > al-Bashir, the Sudanese president, on charges of masterminding > > > > > genocide > >and > > > > >war > > > > > crimes in Darfur. > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum refuses to recognise the court. The UN says as many as > > > > > 300,000 > > >people > > > > > have died during the conflict in Darfur. Khartoum puts the death toll > > > > > at > > > >10,000. > > > > > > > > > > Thousands dispaced > > > > > > > > > > The Satellite Sentinel Project (SSP), which monitors Sudan, said on > >Sunday > > > > >that > > > > > new imagery from Friday showed that the SAF controlled Kadugli, the > >capital > > > > >of > > > > > Southern Kordofan, and that thousands of civilians had been displaced. > > > > > > > > > > The images "show a massing of SAF artillery, light vehicles and heavy > > >transports > > > > > of the kinds used to carry tanks, troops, and munitions," it said. > > > > > > > > > > Fighting between the SAF and southern-aligned groups has spread > > > > > across > >the > > > > > north-run oil state since June 5. > > > > > > > > > > Tens of thousands of people have fled the area, according to the UN. > > > > > > > > > > Al-Sawarmi Khaled, an SAF spokesperson, said: "We are now fighting > > > > > harder > > > > >to > > > > > control all the area in Southern Kordofan." > > > > > > > > > > The SSP, Set up last year by Hollywood actor George Clooney and other > > >activists, > > > > > says it seeks to head off renewed fighting and atrocities in Sudan by > > >publishing > > > > > commercial satellite images collated and analysed with the help of a > > > > > UN > > >agency. > > > > > > > > > > Southern Kordofan, the main oil-producing state that will be left in > > > > > the > > > >north > > > > > after the south secedes, is home to thousands of fighters who fought > > >against > > > > > Khartoum during the last civil war, many of them from the Nuba > > > > > mountains > > > >region. > > > > > > > > > > Officials with the south's dominant Sudan People's Liberation > > > > > Movement > > >(SPLA) > > > > > say clashes started when the north tried to disarm fighters there. > > > > > > > > > > Northern officials blame southern-aligned groups for provoking the > > fighting > > > > > after an official from the north's ruling National Congress Party was > > named > > > > > winner of a state gubernatorial election last month. > > > > > > > > > > In Khartoum, 16 political activists said they were detained for about > >four > > > > >hours > > > > > on Sunday after attempting to stage a demonstration against violence > > > > > in > > >Southern > > > > > Kordofan. > > > > > > > > > > The south voted to secede in a January referendum promised in a 2005 > >peace > > > > >deal > > > > > that ended decades of civil war. > > > > > > > > > > At least seven different armed groups are also fighting the southern > Juba > > > > > government, according to the UN. > > > > > Source: > > > > > Agencies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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