Ya, gw gak percaya bukori, meskipun masih lebih baik dia dari kedudukan Paulus yg jelas2 menipu kristen dng cerita ngibulnya di PB ... hehee Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
-----Original Message----- From: item abu <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:16:09 To: [email protected]<[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [proletar] Hadis sahih = cerita ngibul, hehehe... Hehehe... jadi Bukhari itu Arab sesat. >________________________________ >From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 12:16 PM >Subject: Re: [proletar] Hadis sahih = cerita ngibul, hehehe... > > > >˚ĦεεĦεεĦεεĦεε˚. Dasar item abu emang tololnya sampe ketulang2 > >Hadis bikinan arab sesat disangkanya suatu kebenaran hahaha > >Lebih tolol lagi kebohongan cerita hadis dijadiin bahan olok2 yg dikiranya >bener .... Ketawa sampe guling2 gw Hehehe hahaha >Sent from my BlackBerry® >powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT > >-----Original Message----- >From: item abu <[email protected]> >Sender: [email protected] >Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:43:10 >To: [email protected]<[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >Subject: [proletar] Hadis sahih = cerita ngibul, hehehe... > >Hehehe.... orang Islam itu emang begitu gobloknya, shg mereka itu ga tau apa >yg ada di ajaran Islam sendiri. > >Di fatwa di bawah ini, disebutkan bhw hadis yg bilang nabi Islam itu gila >adalah hadis sahih. Apa ini cerita ngibul? Hehehe... silakan aja kalo mau >bilang hadis sahih itu adalah cerita ngibul. > > >Kalo gua jadi orang Islam, gua akan bunuh diri krn punya nabi gila kayak gitu, >atau gua akan murtad. Untungnya gua bukan orang Islam, hehehe... > > > >From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 4:16 AM >Subject: Re: [proletar] Cuma Islam, hehehe... > > > >Nah ini contoh gobloknya si item abu, ama cerita ngibul. Begini, dia sangat >beriman hehehe > > > >Basic Tenets of Faith » Belief » Belief in the Jinn, witchcraft and the evil >eye >Hadeeth & its Sciences » Commentary on Hadeeth > > > > >The story of magic against the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon >him) and its meaning >ar - enIs the hadith about the magic on Prophet (PBUH) authentic? i've heard >alot about this. > > >Praise be to Allaah. >The hadeeth of magic against the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be >upon him) is a saheeh hadeeth which was narrated by al-Bukhaari, Muslim and >other imams of hadeeth. Ahl al-Sunnah accept this story and no one denies it >except an innovator. There follows the text of the hadeeth, its source, its >meaning and the refutation by the scholars of those who deny it. >It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: A spell >was put on the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) until he >imagined that he had done a thing when he had not done it. One day he made >du’aa’ then he said: “Do you know that Allaah has shown me in what lies my >cure? Two men came to me and one of them sat at my head and the other at my >feet. One of them said to the other, ‘What is ailing the man?’ He said: ‘He >has been bewitched.’ He said: “Who has bewitched him?’ He said: ‘Labeed ibn >al-A’sam.’ He said, ‘With what?’ He said: ‘With a comb, the hair that is >stuck to it, and the skin of pollen of a male date palm. He said: ‘Where is >it?’ He said, ‘In the well of Dharwaan.’” The Prophet (peace and blessings >of Allaah be upon him) went out to the well, then he came back and said to >‘Aa’ishah when he came back: “Its date palms are like the heads of >devils.” I said: “Did you take it out?” He said: “No. Allaah has healed me, >and I feared that that might bring evil upon the people.” Then the well was >filled in. >Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3268; Muslim, 2189. >'A comb >and the hairs stuck to it and.' The first one asked, 'Where is that?' >The other replied, '(That is) in the well of Dharwan.' " So >Allah's Apostle along with some of his companions went >there and came back saying, "O 'Aisha, the color of its >water is like the infusion of Henna leaves. The tops of >the date-palm trees near it are like the heads of the >devils." I asked. "O Allah's Apostle? Why did you not >show it (to the people)?" He said, "Since Allah cured me, >I disliked to let evil spread among the people." Then he >ordered that the well be filled up with earth >Al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: >Al-Maazari said: The innovators rejected this hadeeth and claimed that it >detracted from the status of Prophethood and cast aspersions upon it. They >said: Everything that leads to that is false. And they said that accepting >that meant that we could not be sure of the laws that he prescribed, because >it is possible that he imagined that he was seeing Jibreel when he was not >there, and that something had been revealed to him when nothing had been >revealed. Al-Maazari said: All of this is to be rejected, because the >evidence that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was >truthful in what he conveyed from Allaah and that he was infallible in >conveying it is well established. The miracles bear witness to his >truthfulness and accepting something when there is evidence to the contrary >is false. With regard to some worldly matters for which he was not sent and >which have nothing to do with his message, then he was exposed to the >same as all other human beings, such as sickness. It is not far-fetched to >say that he could be made to imagine something with regard to worldly matters >that was not true, whilst at the same time he was protected against such >things with regard to matters of religion. >Some people said that what is meant by this hadeeth is that he (peace and >blessings of Allaah be upon him) imagined that he had had intercourse with >his wives when he had not done so. This is something that people frequently >imagine in their dreams, so it is not far-fetched to say that he could have >imagined that when he was awake. >I – Ibn Hajar – say: This is what is stated clearly in the report of Ibn >‘Uyaynah that is narrated by al-Bukhaari, which says: “until he thought that >he had had intercourse with his wives when he had not done so.” >‘Iyaad said: Thus it is clear that the witchcraft prevailed over his body and >physical faculties, not over his discernment and beliefs… >Al-Mahlab said: The protection of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah >be upon him) against the devils does not mean that they would not try to harm >him. In al-Saheeh it is narrated that a devil wanted to spoil his prayer but >Allaah protected him against him. The same applies to witchcraft; the harm >that affected him did not have any impact on his conveying of the message, >rather it was akin to any other kind of sickness that afflicted him, such as >having difficulty in speaking or doing certain things, or experiencing >illusions that did not last. Rather it passed and Allaah foiled the plots of >the devils. End quote. >Fath al-Baari, 10/226, 227 >Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: >How the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was guided to >treat the spell which Jews cast on him: >This has been denied by some people who said that this could not have >happened to him, and they thought that it was a shortcoming and a fault. But >it is not as they think, rather it comes under the heading of sickness and >pain that befell him; it is a kind of illness which befell him just as he was >also affected by poison – there is no difference between the two. It is >proven in al-Saheehayn that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: >“The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was >bewitched until he thought that he had had intercourse with his wives when he >had not done so, and that is the worst kind of witchcraft.” Al-Qaadi ‘Iyaad >said: Witchcraft is a kind of sickness which happened to him like other kinds >of sickness. That cannot be denied and it does not detract from his >Prophethood. >With regard to his imagining that he had done something when he had not done >it, that does not have any impact on his truthfulness, because of the >evidence to that effect and the scholarly consensus that he was protected >from that. Rather it was one of the matters of this world which are not the >reason for which he was sent, and which are not the basis of his virtue and >in which he was like all other human beings. It is not far-fetched to say >that he might imagine some things that were not real, then things became >clear to him later on, as indeed happened. End quote. >Zaad al-Ma’aad, 4/124 >So it is clear that the hadeeth is saheeh, and that it does not detract from >the status of Prophethood. Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, protected >His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and made him >infallible before this spell was cast, during it and afterwards. The spell >did no more than make the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon >him) think that he had had intercourse with his wives when he had not done >so; it had to do with a purely worldly matter, and had nothing to do with his >conveying of the message at all. The words of the scholars quoted above are >sufficient, and whoever wants to know more may refer to Fath al-Baari and >Zaad al-Ma’aad. >And Allaah knows best. > >Islam Q&A > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! 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