Hehehe.... asal gua ngeluarin ayat Quran dgn tafsir atau hadis pendukung, orang Islam semua akan ngacir terkencing2 ngecawat ekor, ga berani ngejawab, paling2 cuma kaing2 kayak anjing kejepit buntut.
--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: > > Gua kasih 4 buah tafsir ayat > 65:4 ditambah keterangan Maududi yg bilang terang2an bhw anak ingusan yg blm > mens itu halal diembat oleh orang soleh dan bertaqwa, hehehe... > Yg jadi masalah itu kan adalah > ketololan orang2 Islam yg ga becus bhs Inggris dan jg mungkin ga kenal siapa > itu Maududi misalnya. Orang2 Islam dungu ini mungkin kenalnya cuma tukang tipu > kayak si Jeffry al Bukhori atau Abdullah Gymnastiar, atau bahkan cuma tau > Tukul > Arwana. >  > Tafsir Ibn Kathir > Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. > And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her > `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who > menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. ï´¿see > 2:228ï´¾ THE SAME FOR THE YOUNG, WHO > HAVE NOT REACHED THE YEARS OF MENSTRUATION. Their `Iddah is three months like > those in > menopause. This is the meaning of His saying; > (and for those who have no courses...) as for His saying; >  (if you have doubt...) There are two > opinions: First, is the saying of a group of the Salaf, like Mujahid, Az-Zuhri > and Ibn Zayd. That is, if they see blood and there is doubt if it was > menstrual > blood or not. The second, is that if you do not know the ruling in this case, > then know that their `Iddah is three months. This has been reported from Sa`id > bin Jubayr and it is the view preferred by Ibn Jarir. And this is the more > obvious meaning. Supporting this view is what is reported from Ubay bin Ka`b > that he said, "O Allah's Messenger! Some women were not mentioned in the > Qur'an, the young, the old and the pregnant.'' Allah the Exalted and Most > Honored sent down this Ayah, >  (Those in menopause among your women, > for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who > have > no courses. And for those who are pregnant, their `Iddah is until they lay > down > their burden.) Ibn Abi Hatim recorded a simpler narration than this one from > Ubay bin Ka`b who said, "O Allah's Messenger! When the Ayah in Surat > Al-Baqarah > was revealed prescribing the `Iddah of divorce, some people in Al-Madinah > said, > `There are still some women whose `Iddah has not been mentioned in the Qur'an. > There are THE YOUNG, the old whose menstruation is discontinued, and the > pregnant.' Later on, this Ayah was revealed, >  (Those in menopause among your women, > for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who > have > no courses.)'' >  > Tafsir al-Jalalayn > And [as for] those of your women > who (read allÄâÄ« or allÄâi in both instances) no longer expect to > menstruate, > if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed [waiting] > period shall be three months, and [also for] THOSE WHO HAVE > NOT YET MENSTRUATED, BECAUSE OF THEIR YOUNG AGE, > their period shall [also] be three months â" both cases apply to other than > those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is prescribed > in > the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. > 2:234]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their > prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall be > when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for him, > in > this world and in the Hereafter. >  > Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn âAbbâs > (And for such of your women as > despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting > period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another > man asked: âO Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period OF THOSE > WHO DO > NOT HAVE MENSTRUATION BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO YOUNG?â (ALONG WITH THOSE WHO > HAVE > IT NOT) BECAUSE OF YOUNG AGE, their waiting period is three months. Another > man > asked: âwhat is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?â > (And for > those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting > period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And > whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding what he > commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter easy; > and > it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well. >  > Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi > (And for such of your > women as despair of menstruationâ¦) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: âWhen the verse > (Women > who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apartâ¦), Kallad ibn > al-Nuâman > ibn Qays al-Ansari said: âO Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting period > of > the woman who does not menstruate and THE WOMAN WHO HAS NOT MENSTRUATED YET? > And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?â And so Allah, > exalted is > He, revealed this verseâ. Abu Ishaq al-Muqriâ informed us> Muhammad ibn > âAbd > Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn âAbdan> Abuâl-Azhar> Asbat ibn Muhammad> > Mutarrif> Abu âUthman âAmr ibn Salim who said: âWhen the waiting period > for > divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn Kaâb > said: âO Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are > other > women who have not been mentioned!â He asked him: âAnd who are they?â > He said: > âTHOSE WHO ARE TOO YOUNG [SUCH THAT THEY HAVE NOT STARTED MENSTRUATING > YET], those > who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are > pregnantâ. > And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of menstruationâ¦) > was > revealedâ. >  >  > Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi - Tafhim al-Qur'an - The Meaning of the > Qur'an > 13They may not have menstruated as > yet either BECAUSE OF YOUNG AGE, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens > in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life > which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of > such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that > is > three months from the time divorce was pronounced. > Here, one should bear in > mind the fact that according to the explanations given in the Qur'an the > question of the waiting period arises in respect of the women with whom > marriage may have been consummated, FOR THERE IS NO WAITING-PERIOD IN CASE > DIVORCE IS PRONOUNCED BEFORE THE CONSUMMATION OF MARRIAGE. (AL-AHZAB: 49). > Therefore, > MAKING MENTION OF THE WAITING-PERIOD FOR THE GIRLS WHO HAVE NOT YET > MENSTRUATED, CLEARLY PROVES THAT IT IS NOT ONLY PERMISSIBLE TO GIVE AWAY THE > GIRL IN MARRIAGE AT THIS AGE BUT IT IS ALSO PERMISSIBLE FOR THE HUSBAND TO > CONSUMMATE MARRIAGE WITH HER. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid > a thing which the Qur'an has held as permissible. > The girl who is divorced > in the state when she has not yet menstruated and then she starts having the > menses during the waiting-period, will reckon her waiting-period from the same > menstruation and her waiting-period will be reckoned just like the woman who > menstruates regularly. >  > > > > >________________________________ > >From: item abu <itemabu@...> > >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:14 PM > >Subject: [proletar] Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? > > > > > > > >The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) married > >âAaâishah (may Allah be pleased with her) when she was six years old > >and the marriage was consummated when she was nine years old. Narrated by > >al-Bukhaari (4840) and Muslim (1422). > > > >Ulama Saudi ngaku bhw nabi keparatnya itu ngembat anak ingusan 9 thn, dan ga > >ada batasan umur unt ngembat anak ingusan, asal si anak itu udah bisa > >diembat, tentunya yg dimaksud adalah kontol orang Islam bisa masuk. Jadi > >nabi Islam itu kepaksa nunggu sampe Aisha 9 thn baru diembat, biarpun si > >Aisha udah jadi bininya di usia 6 thn. Tp si Aisha bisa jg koq dipake buat > >ngejepit kontol nabi sambil ngelus2 kontol nabi. > > > >Masalahnya, apa orang Islam bisa baca tulisan dlm bhs Inggris ini? > > > >http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/146882 > > > >Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? > >146882 > >Fiqh of the family » Conditions of Marriage > >Fiqh of the family » Rulings on Marriage > > > >Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? > >ar - en > > > >Share | I would like to know whether there is a > >set age for marriage in Islam for men and women? I hope you can explain > >with reference to the Qurâaan and saheeh hadeeths. > > > >Praise be to Allaah. > >Firstly: > >Islam does not give a specific age for marriage, either for the husband or > >for the wife. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the > >meaning): > >âAnd for such of your women as despair of menstruation, if ye doubt, > >their period (of waiting) shall be three months, along with those who have > >it notâ > >[al-Talaaq 65:4]. > >Al-Saâdi (may Allah have mercy on him) said: âalong with those who have > >it [menses] notâ means minors, those who have not yet started to > >menstruate. Adult women who have never menstruated at all are like those > >who âdespair of menstruationâ (i.e., have passed menopause); their > >âiddah is three months. End quote. > >Tafseer al-Saâdi, p. 870 > >The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) married > >âAaâishah (may Allah be pleased with her) when she was six years old > >and the marriage was consummated when she was nine years old. Narrated by > >al-Bukhaari (4840) and Muslim (1422). > >Ibn Qudaamah (may Allah have mercy on him) said in al-Sharh al-Kabeer, > >7/386: > >With regard to females, the father may give his minor, virgin daughter who > >has not yet reached the age of nine in marriage, and there is no difference > >of opinion concerning that, if he gives her in marriage to someone who is > >compatible. Ibn al-Mundhir said: All of those scholars from whom we > >acquired knowledge unanimously agreed that it is permissible for a father > >to give his minor daughter in marriage if he arranges her to someone who is > >compatible, and it is permissible for him to do that even if she is > >reluctant. End quote. > >Secondly: > >No one may give a minor daughter in marriage except her father according to > >the view of Maalik and Ahmad. This was also the view of al-Shaafaâi, but > >he regarded the grandfather as being like the father in that regard. Abu > >Haneefah said â" and it was also narrated from Ahmad â" that it is > >permissible for a guardian other than the father to give (the minor girl) > >in marriage, but the more correct view is the former one. > >See: al-Mughni, 7/33 > >Thirdly: > >The father should not give a minor daughter in marriage except in a case > >where he thinks it is in her best interests. Just as he may only dispose of > >her wealth in that which is in her best interests, the same applies with > >regard to arranging her marriage. Islam only permits that to the Muslim > >father who is pious and pays proper attention to the best interests of his > >children, and who understands very well that he is a shepherd and that he > >is responsible for his flock. > >Ibn Wahb narrated that Maalik said, with regard to a man arranging a > >marriage for an orphan girl under his care: If he thinks that (the husband) > >is a man of virtue, righteousness and wisdom, it is permissible for him to > >do that. > >Ahkaam al-Qurâaan by al-Jassaas, 2/342 > >Fourthly: > >A man should not consummate marriage with his young bride until she is > >physically able to bear intercourse. This varies from one time, place and > >environment to another. > >For more information please see the answers to questions no. 22442 and > >127176. > >What young men and guardians of girls should do is hasten to arrange > >marriages, so as to guard chastity and protect honour, and so as to attain > >the great purposes for which Allah ordained marriage. > >And Allah knows best. > > > >Islam Q&A > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! 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