Hehehe.... lu ga ngerti bhs Inggris yah, makanya lu ga baca tafsir yg gua kutip itu.
Udah tolol malahan kaing2 nunjukin tololnya orang Islam ini, betul2 super tolol. >________________________________ >From: Musik hari Ini <[email protected]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:20 PM >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? > > > >Omong kosong tiap2 hari disini > >baca Quran dimana belajar nya? >jelas inikan omongan orang gila >tidak mungkin elu yang bukan islam >lebih pinter dari gua soal islam >karena elu terjun bebas disini >jadi keliatan licik > >pake lagi nafsirin hadis seenak bero lu > >emangnya sampeyan berotak sehat? > >________________________________ >From: itemabu <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:07 AM >Subject: [proletar] Re: Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? > > >Hehehe.... asal gua ngeluarin ayat Quran dgn tafsir atau hadis pendukung, >orang Islam semua akan ngacir terkencing2 ngecawat ekor, ga berani ngejawab, >paling2 cuma kaing2 kayak anjing kejepit buntut. > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: >> >> Gua kasih 4 buah tafsir ayat >> 65:4 ditambah keterangan Maududi yg bilang terang2an bhw anak ingusan yg blm >> mens itu halal diembat oleh orang soleh dan bertaqwa, hehehe... >> Yg jadi masalah itu kan adalah >> ketololan orang2 Islam yg ga becus bhs Inggris dan jg mungkin ga kenal siapa >> itu Maududi misalnya. Orang2 Islam dungu ini mungkin kenalnya cuma tukang >> tipu >> kayak si Jeffry al Bukhori atau Abdullah Gymnastiar, atau bahkan cuma tau >> Tukul >> Arwana. >>  >> Tafsir Ibn Kathir >> Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. >> And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her >> `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who >> menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. ï´¿see >> 2:228ï´¾ THE SAME FOR THE YOUNG, WHO >> HAVE NOT REACHED THE YEARS OF MENSTRUATION. Their `Iddah is three months >> like those in >> menopause. This is the meaning of His saying; >> (and for those who have no courses...) as for His saying; >>  (if you have doubt...) There are two >> opinions: First, is the saying of a group of the Salaf, like Mujahid, >> Az-Zuhri >> and Ibn Zayd. That is, if they see blood and there is doubt if it was >> menstrual >> blood or not. The second, is that if you do not know the ruling in this case, >> then know that their `Iddah is three months. This has been reported from >> Sa`id >> bin Jubayr and it is the view preferred by Ibn Jarir. And this is the more >> obvious meaning. Supporting this view is what is reported from Ubay bin Ka`b >> that he said, "O Allah's Messenger! Some women were not mentioned in the >> Qur'an, the young, the old and the pregnant.'' Allah the Exalted and Most >> Honored sent down this Ayah, >>  (Those in menopause among your women, >> for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who >> have >> no courses. And for those who are pregnant, their `Iddah is until they lay >> down >> their burden.) Ibn Abi Hatim recorded a simpler narration than this one from >> Ubay bin Ka`b who said, "O Allah's Messenger! When the Ayah in Surat >> Al-Baqarah >> was revealed prescribing the `Iddah of divorce, some people in Al-Madinah >> said, >> `There are still some women whose `Iddah has not been mentioned in the >> Qur'an. >> There are THE YOUNG, the old whose menstruation is discontinued, and the >> pregnant.' Later on, this Ayah was revealed, >>  (Those in menopause among your women, >> for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who >> have >> no courses.)'' >>  >> Tafsir al-Jalalayn >> And [as for] those of your women >> who (read allÄ�’ī or allÄ�’i in both instances) no longer expect to >> menstruate, >> if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed >> [waiting] >> period shall be three months, and [also for] THOSE WHO HAVE >> NOT YET MENSTRUATED, BECAUSE OF THEIR YOUNG AGE, >> their period shall [also] be three months â€" both cases apply to other than >> those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is prescribed >> in >> the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. >> 2:234]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their >> prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall be >> when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for him, >> in >> this world and in the Hereafter. >>  >> Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs >> (And for such of your women as >> despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their >> waiting >> period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another >> man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period OF THOSE >> WHO DO >> NOT HAVE MENSTRUATION BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO YOUNG?â€� (ALONG WITH THOSE WHO >> HAVE >> IT NOT) BECAUSE OF YOUNG AGE, their waiting period is three months. Another >> man >> asked: “what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?â€� >> (And for >> those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting >> period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And >> whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding what >> he >> commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter easy; >> and >> it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well. >>  >> Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi >> (And for such of your >> women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the verse >> (Women >> who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn >> al-Nu‘man >> ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting period >> of >> the woman who does not menstruate and THE WOMAN WHO HAS NOT MENSTRUATED YET? >> And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, >> exalted is >> He, revealed this verseâ€�. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us> Muhammad ibn >> ‘Abd >> Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan> Abu’l-Azhar> Asbat ibn Muhammad> >> Mutarrif> Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting >> period for >> divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn >> Ka‘b >> said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are >> other >> women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are they?’ >> He said: >> ‘THOSE WHO ARE TOO YOUNG [SUCH THAT THEY HAVE NOT STARTED MENSTRUATING >> YET], those >> who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are >> pregnant’. >> And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) >> was >> revealedâ€�. >>  >>  >> Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi - Tafhim al-Qur'an - The Meaning of the >> Qur'an >> 13They may not have menstruated as >> yet either BECAUSE OF YOUNG AGE, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens >> in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life >> which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of >> such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that >> is >> three months from the time divorce was pronounced. >> Here, one should bear in >> mind the fact that according to the explanations given in the Qur'an the >> question of the waiting period arises in respect of the women with whom >> marriage may have been consummated, FOR THERE IS NO WAITING-PERIOD IN CASE >> DIVORCE IS PRONOUNCED BEFORE THE CONSUMMATION OF MARRIAGE. (AL-AHZAB: 49). >> Therefore, >> MAKING MENTION OF THE WAITING-PERIOD FOR THE GIRLS WHO HAVE NOT YET >> MENSTRUATED, CLEARLY PROVES THAT IT IS NOT ONLY PERMISSIBLE TO GIVE AWAY THE >> GIRL IN MARRIAGE AT THIS AGE BUT IT IS ALSO PERMISSIBLE FOR THE HUSBAND TO >> CONSUMMATE MARRIAGE WITH HER. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to >> forbid >> a thing which the Qur'an has held as permissible. >> The girl who is divorced >> in the state when she has not yet menstruated and then she starts having the >> menses during the waiting-period, will reckon her waiting-period from the >> same >> menstruation and her waiting-period will be reckoned just like the woman who >> menstruates regularly. >>  >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >From: item abu <itemabu@...> >> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> >Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:14 PM >> >Subject: [proletar] Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? >> > >> > >> > >> >The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) married >> >‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) when she was six years old >> >and the marriage was consummated when she was nine years old. Narrated by >> >al-Bukhaari (4840) and Muslim (1422). >> > >> >Ulama Saudi ngaku bhw nabi keparatnya itu ngembat anak ingusan 9 thn, dan >> >ga ada batasan umur unt ngembat anak ingusan, asal si anak itu udah bisa >> >diembat, tentunya yg dimaksud adalah kontol orang Islam bisa masuk. Jadi >> >nabi Islam itu kepaksa nunggu sampe Aisha 9 thn baru diembat, biarpun si >> >Aisha udah jadi bininya di usia 6 thn. Tp si Aisha bisa jg koq dipake buat >> >ngejepit kontol nabi sambil ngelus2 kontol nabi. >> > >> >Masalahnya, apa orang Islam bisa baca tulisan dlm bhs Inggris ini? >> > >> >http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/146882 >> > >> >Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? >> >146882 >> >Fiqh of the family » Conditions of Marriage >> >Fiqh of the family » Rulings on Marriage >> > >> >Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? >> >ar - en >> > >> >Share | I would like to know whether there is a >> >set age for marriage in Islam for men and women? I hope you can explain >> >with reference to the Qur’aan and saheeh hadeeths. >> > >> >Praise be to Allaah. >> >Firstly: >> >Islam does not give a specific age for marriage, either for the husband or >> >for the wife. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the >> >meaning): >> >“And for such of your women as despair of menstruation, if ye doubt, >> >their period (of waiting) shall be three months, along with those who have >> >it notâ€� >> >[al-Talaaq 65:4]. >> >Al-Sa‘di (may Allah have mercy on him) said: “along with those who >> >have it [menses] notâ€� means minors, those who have not yet started to >> >menstruate. Adult women who have never menstruated at all are like those >> >who “despair of menstruationâ€� (i.e., have passed menopause); their >> >‘iddah is three months. End quote. >> >Tafseer al-Sa‘di, p. 870 >> >The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) married >> >‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) when she was six years old >> >and the marriage was consummated when she was nine years old. Narrated by >> >al-Bukhaari (4840) and Muslim (1422). >> >Ibn Qudaamah (may Allah have mercy on him) said in al-Sharh al-Kabeer, >> >7/386: >> >With regard to females, the father may give his minor, virgin daughter who >> >has not yet reached the age of nine in marriage, and there is no >> >difference of opinion concerning that, if he gives her in marriage to >> >someone who is compatible. Ibn al-Mundhir said: All of those scholars from >> >whom we acquired knowledge unanimously agreed that it is permissible for a >> >father to give his minor daughter in marriage if he arranges her to someone >> > who is compatible, and it is permissible for him to do that even if she is >> > reluctant. End quote. >> >Secondly: >> >No one may give a minor daughter in marriage except her father according >> >to the view of Maalik and Ahmad. This was also the view of al-Shaafa‘i, >> >but he regarded the grandfather as being like the father in that regard. >> >Abu Haneefah said â€" and it was also narrated from Ahmad â€" that it is >> >permissible for a guardian other than the father to give (the minor girl) >> >in marriage, but the more correct view is the former one. >> >See: al-Mughni, 7/33 >> >Thirdly: >> >The father should not give a minor daughter in marriage except in a case >> >where he thinks it is in her best interests. Just as he may only dispose >> >of her wealth in that which is in her best interests, the same applies >> >with regard to arranging her marriage. Islam only permits that to the >> >Muslim father who is pious and pays proper attention to the best interests >> >of his children, and who understands very well that he is a shepherd and >> >that he is responsible for his flock. >> >Ibn Wahb narrated that Maalik said, with regard to a man arranging a >> >marriage for an orphan girl under his care: If he thinks that (the >> >husband) is a man of virtue, righteousness and wisdom, it is permissible >> >for him to do that. >> >Ahkaam al-Qur’aan by al-Jassaas, 2/342 >> >Fourthly: >> >A man should not consummate marriage with his young bride until she is >> >physically able to bear intercourse. This varies from one time, place and >> >environment to another. >> >For more information please see the answers to questions no. 22442 and >> >127176. >> >What young men and guardians of girls should do is hasten to arrange >> >marriages, so as to guard chastity and protect honour, and so as to attain >> >the great purposes for which Allah ordained marriage. >> >And Allah knows best. >> > >> >Islam Q&A >> > >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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