Betul ga yg gua bilang, orang Islam itu kalo bukannya kabur mencawat ekor ga 
berani ngejawab, ya cuma bisa kaing2 kayak anjing kejepit buntut begitu gua 
keluarin ayat/tafsir/hadis.

Emang ga ada yg bisa ngelawan al ustadz, hehehe...




>________________________________
>From: rezameutia <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:55 PM
>Subject: [proletar] Re: Is there a set age for marriage in Islam?
>
>
>  
>lagak lu sok copas dari bahasa inggris, padahal elu nggak ngerti bahasa 
>inggris.  kalo diladenin ngomong lu bukannya mikir palingan kaing2 teriak 
>kayak homo sialan yang kontolnya kejepit pantatnya jusfiq.
>
>hehehe...
>
>--- In [email protected], "itemabu" <itemabu@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hehehe.... asal gua ngeluarin ayat Quran dgn tafsir atau hadis pendukung, 
>> orang Islam semua akan ngacir terkencing2 ngecawat ekor, ga berani ngejawab, 
>> paling2 cuma kaing2 kayak anjing kejepit buntut.
>> 
>> 
>> --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
>> >
>> > Gua kasih 4 buah tafsir ayat
>> > 65:4 ditambah keterangan Maududi yg bilang terang2an bhw anak ingusan yg 
>> > blm
>> > mens itu halal diembat oleh orang soleh dan bertaqwa, hehehe...
>> > Yg jadi masalah itu kan adalah
>> > ketololan orang2 Islam yg ga becus bhs Inggris dan jg mungkin ga kenal 
>> > siapa
>> > itu Maududi misalnya. Orang2 Islam dungu ini mungkin kenalnya cuma tukang 
>> > tipu
>> > kayak si Jeffry al Bukhori atau Abdullah Gymnastiar, atau bahkan cuma tau 
>> > Tukul
>> > Arwana.
>> >  
>> > Tafsir Ibn Kathir
>> > Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause.
>> > And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. 
>> > Her
>> > `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who
>> > menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. ï´¿see 
>> > 2:228ï´¾ THE SAME FOR THE YOUNG, WHO
>> > HAVE NOT REACHED THE YEARS OF MENSTRUATION. Their `Iddah is three months 
>> > like those in
>> > menopause. This is the meaning of His saying;
>> > (and for those who have no courses...) as for His saying;
>> >  (if you have doubt...) There are two
>> > opinions: First, is the saying of a group of the Salaf, like Mujahid, 
>> > Az-Zuhri
>> > and Ibn Zayd. That is, if they see blood and there is doubt if it was 
>> > menstrual
>> > blood or not. The second, is that if you do not know the ruling in this 
>> > case,
>> > then know that their `Iddah is three months. This has been reported from 
>> > Sa`id
>> > bin Jubayr and it is the view preferred by Ibn Jarir. And this is the more
>> > obvious meaning. Supporting this view is what is reported from Ubay bin 
>> > Ka`b
>> > that he said, "O Allah's Messenger! Some women were not mentioned in the
>> > Qur'an, the young, the old and the pregnant.'' Allah the Exalted and Most
>> > Honored sent down this Ayah,
>> >  (Those in menopause among your women,
>> > for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who 
>> > have
>> > no courses. And for those who are pregnant, their `Iddah is until they lay 
>> > down
>> > their burden.) Ibn Abi Hatim recorded a simpler narration than this one 
>> > from
>> > Ubay bin Ka`b who said, "O Allah's Messenger! When the Ayah in Surat 
>> > Al-Baqarah
>> > was revealed prescribing the `Iddah of divorce, some people in Al-Madinah 
>> > said,
>> > `There are still some women whose `Iddah has not been mentioned in the 
>> > Qur'an.
>> > There are THE YOUNG, the old whose menstruation is discontinued, and the
>> > pregnant.' Later on, this Ayah was revealed,
>> >  (Those in menopause among your women,
>> > for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who 
>> > have
>> > no courses.)''
>> >  
>> > Tafsir al-Jalalayn
>> > And [as for] those of your women
>> > who (read all�’ī or all�’i in both instances) no longer expect to 
>> > menstruate,
>> > if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed 
>> > [waiting]
>> > period shall be three months, and [also for] THOSE WHO HAVE
>> > NOT YET MENSTRUATED, BECAUSE OF THEIR YOUNG AGE,
>> > their period shall [also] be three months â€" both cases apply to other 
>> > than
>> > those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is 
>> > prescribed in
>> > the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q.
>> > 2:234]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their
>> > prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall 
>> > be
>> > when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for 
>> > him, in
>> > this world and in the Hereafter.
>> >  
>> > Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
>> > (And for such of your women as
>> > despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their 
>> > waiting
>> > period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which 
>> > another
>> > man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period OF THOSE 
>> > WHO DO
>> > NOT HAVE MENSTRUATION BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO YOUNG?� (ALONG WITH THOSE WHO 
>> > HAVE
>> > IT NOT) BECAUSE OF YOUNG AGE, their waiting period is three months. 
>> > Another man
>> > asked: “what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?� 
>> > (And for
>> > those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting
>> > period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And
>> > whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding 
>> > what he
>> > commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter 
>> > easy; and
>> > it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well.
>> >  
>> > Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi
>> > (And for such of your
>> > women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the 
>> > verse (Women
>> > who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn 
>> > al-Nu‘man
>> > ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting 
>> > period of
>> > the woman who does not menstruate and THE WOMAN WHO HAS NOT MENSTRUATED 
>> > YET?
>> > And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, 
>> > exalted is
>> > He, revealed this verse�. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us> Muhammad 
>> > ibn ‘Abd
>> > Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan> Abu’l-Azhar> Asbat ibn Muhammad>
>> > Mutarrif> Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting 
>> > period for
>> > divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn 
>> > Ka‘b
>> > said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are 
>> > other
>> > women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are 
>> > they?’ He said:
>> > ‘THOSE WHO ARE TOO YOUNG [SUCH THAT THEY HAVE NOT STARTED MENSTRUATING 
>> > YET], those
>> > who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are 
>> > pregnant’.
>> > And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of 
>> > menstruation…) was
>> > revealed�.
>> >  
>> >  
>> > Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi - Tafhim al-Qur'an - The Meaning of the
>> > Qur'an
>> > 13They may not have menstruated as
>> > yet either BECAUSE OF YOUNG AGE, or delayed menstrual discharge as it 
>> > happens
>> > in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout 
>> > life
>> > which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period 
>> > of
>> > such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, 
>> > that is
>> > three months from the time divorce was pronounced. 
>> > Here, one should bear in
>> > mind the fact that according to the explanations given in the Qur'an the
>> > question of the waiting period arises in respect of the women with whom
>> > marriage may have been consummated, FOR THERE IS NO WAITING-PERIOD IN CASE
>> > DIVORCE IS PRONOUNCED BEFORE THE CONSUMMATION OF MARRIAGE. (AL-AHZAB: 49). 
>> > Therefore,
>> > MAKING MENTION OF THE WAITING-PERIOD FOR THE GIRLS WHO HAVE NOT YET
>> > MENSTRUATED, CLEARLY PROVES THAT IT IS NOT ONLY PERMISSIBLE TO GIVE AWAY 
>> > THE
>> > GIRL IN MARRIAGE AT THIS AGE BUT IT IS ALSO PERMISSIBLE FOR THE HUSBAND TO
>> > CONSUMMATE MARRIAGE WITH HER. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to 
>> > forbid
>> > a thing which the Qur'an has held as permissible. 
>> > The girl who is divorced
>> > in the state when she has not yet menstruated and then she starts having 
>> > the
>> > menses during the waiting-period, will reckon her waiting-period from the 
>> > same
>> > menstruation and her waiting-period will be reckoned just like the woman 
>> > who
>> > menstruates regularly.  
>> >  
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > >________________________________
>> > >From: item abu <itemabu@>
>> > >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> > >Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:14 PM
>> > >Subject: [proletar] Is there a set age for marriage in Islam?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  
>> > >The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him)  married 
>> > >‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) when she was six years old  
>> > >and the marriage was consummated when she was nine years old. Narrated by 
>> > > al-Bukhaari (4840) and Muslim (1422). 
>> > >
>> > >Ulama Saudi ngaku bhw nabi keparatnya itu ngembat anak ingusan 9 thn, dan 
>> > >ga ada batasan umur unt ngembat anak ingusan, asal si anak itu udah bisa 
>> > >diembat, tentunya yg dimaksud adalah kontol orang Islam bisa masuk. Jadi 
>> > >nabi Islam itu kepaksa nunggu sampe Aisha 9 thn baru diembat, biarpun si 
>> > >Aisha udah jadi bininya di usia 6 thn. Tp si Aisha bisa jg koq dipake 
>> > >buat ngejepit kontol nabi sambil ngelus2 kontol nabi.
>> > >
>> > >Masalahnya, apa orang Islam bisa baca tulisan dlm bhs Inggris ini?
>> > >
>> > >http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/146882
>> > >
>> > >Is there a set age for marriage in Islam?
>> > >146882
>> > >Fiqh of the family » Conditions of Marriage
>> > >Fiqh of the family » Rulings on Marriage
>> > >
>> > >Is there a set age for marriage in Islam?
>> > >ar - en
>> > >
>> > >Share |      I would like to know whether there is a 
>> > >set age for marriage in Islam for men and women? I hope you can explain 
>> > >with reference to the Qur’aan and saheeh hadeeths.
>> > >
>> > >Praise be to Allaah. 
>> > >Firstly: 
>> > >Islam does not give a specific age for marriage, either for  the husband 
>> > >or for the wife. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation  of the 
>> > >meaning):
>> > >“And for such of your women as  despair of menstruation, if ye doubt, 
>> > >their period (of waiting) shall be  three months, along with those who 
>> > >have it not�
>> > >[al-Talaaq 65:4]. 
>> > >Al-Sa‘di (may Allah have mercy on him) said: “along  with those who 
>> > >have it [menses] not� means minors, those who have  not yet started to 
>> > >menstruate. Adult women who have never menstruated at all  are like those 
>> > >who “despair of menstruation� (i.e., have passed menopause);  their 
>> > >‘iddah is three months. End quote. 
>> > >Tafseer al-Sa‘di, p. 870 
>> > >The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him)  married 
>> > >‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) when she was six years old  
>> > >and the marriage was consummated when she was nine years old. Narrated by 
>> > > al-Bukhaari (4840) and Muslim (1422). 
>> > >Ibn Qudaamah (may Allah have mercy on him) said in  al-Sharh al-Kabeer, 
>> > >7/386: 
>> > >With regard to females, the father may give his minor, virgin  daughter 
>> > >who has not yet reached the age of nine in marriage, and there is  no 
>> > >difference of opinion concerning that, if he gives her in marriage to  
>> > >someone who is compatible. Ibn al-Mundhir said: All of those scholars 
>> > >from  whom we acquired knowledge unanimously agreed that it is 
>> > >permissible for a  father to give his minor daughter in marriage if he 
>> > >arranges her to someone  who is compatible, and it is permissible for him 
>> > >to do that even if she is  reluctant. End quote. 
>> > >Secondly: 
>> > >No one may give a minor daughter in marriage except her  father according 
>> > >to the view of Maalik and Ahmad. This was also the view of  
>> > >al-Shaafa‘i, but he regarded the grandfather as being like the father 
>> > >in  that regard. Abu Haneefah said â€" and it was also narrated from 
>> > >Ahmad â€" that  it is permissible for a guardian other than the father to 
>> > >give (the minor  girl) in marriage, but the more correct view is the 
>> > >former one.
>> > >See: al-Mughni, 7/33 
>> > >Thirdly: 
>> > >The father should not give a minor daughter in marriage  except in a case 
>> > >where he thinks it is in her best interests. Just as he may  only dispose 
>> > >of her wealth in that which is in her best interests, the same  applies 
>> > >with regard to arranging her marriage. Islam only permits that to  the 
>> > >Muslim father who is pious and pays proper attention to the best  
>> > >interests of his children, and who understands very well that he is a  
>> > >shepherd and that he is responsible for his flock. 
>> > >Ibn Wahb narrated that Maalik said, with regard to a man  arranging a 
>> > >marriage for an orphan girl under his care: If he thinks that  (the 
>> > >husband) is a man of virtue, righteousness and wisdom, it is  permissible 
>> > >for him to do that. 
>> > >Ahkaam al-Qur’aan by al-Jassaas,  2/342 
>> > >Fourthly: 
>> > >A man should not consummate marriage with his young bride  until she is 
>> > >physically able to bear intercourse. This varies from one time,  place 
>> > >and environment to another. 
>> > >For more information please see the answers to questions no. 22442 and 
>> > >127176. 
>> > >What young men and guardians of girls should do is hasten to  arrange 
>> > >marriages, so as to guard chastity and protect honour, and so as to  
>> > >attain the great purposes for which Allah ordained marriage. 
>> > >And Allah knows best. 
>> > >
>> > >Islam Q&A
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