Betul ga yg gua bilang, orang Islam itu kalo bukannya kabur mencawat ekor ga berani ngejawab, ya cuma bisa kaing2 kayak anjing kejepit buntut begitu gua keluarin ayat/tafsir/hadis.
Emang ga ada yg bisa ngelawan al ustadz, hehehe... >________________________________ >From: rezameutia <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:55 PM >Subject: [proletar] Re: Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? > > > >lagak lu sok copas dari bahasa inggris, padahal elu nggak ngerti bahasa >inggris. kalo diladenin ngomong lu bukannya mikir palingan kaing2 teriak >kayak homo sialan yang kontolnya kejepit pantatnya jusfiq. > >hehehe... > >--- In [email protected], "itemabu" <itemabu@...> wrote: >> >> Hehehe.... asal gua ngeluarin ayat Quran dgn tafsir atau hadis pendukung, >> orang Islam semua akan ngacir terkencing2 ngecawat ekor, ga berani ngejawab, >> paling2 cuma kaing2 kayak anjing kejepit buntut. >> >> >> --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> > >> > Gua kasih 4 buah tafsir ayat >> > 65:4 ditambah keterangan Maududi yg bilang terang2an bhw anak ingusan yg >> > blm >> > mens itu halal diembat oleh orang soleh dan bertaqwa, hehehe... >> > Yg jadi masalah itu kan adalah >> > ketololan orang2 Islam yg ga becus bhs Inggris dan jg mungkin ga kenal >> > siapa >> > itu Maududi misalnya. Orang2 Islam dungu ini mungkin kenalnya cuma tukang >> > tipu >> > kayak si Jeffry al Bukhori atau Abdullah Gymnastiar, atau bahkan cuma tau >> > Tukul >> > Arwana. >> >  >> > Tafsir Ibn Kathir >> > Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. >> > And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. >> > Her >> > `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who >> > menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. ï´¿see >> > 2:228ï´¾ THE SAME FOR THE YOUNG, WHO >> > HAVE NOT REACHED THE YEARS OF MENSTRUATION. Their `Iddah is three months >> > like those in >> > menopause. This is the meaning of His saying; >> > (and for those who have no courses...) as for His saying; >> >  (if you have doubt...) There are two >> > opinions: First, is the saying of a group of the Salaf, like Mujahid, >> > Az-Zuhri >> > and Ibn Zayd. That is, if they see blood and there is doubt if it was >> > menstrual >> > blood or not. The second, is that if you do not know the ruling in this >> > case, >> > then know that their `Iddah is three months. This has been reported from >> > Sa`id >> > bin Jubayr and it is the view preferred by Ibn Jarir. And this is the more >> > obvious meaning. Supporting this view is what is reported from Ubay bin >> > Ka`b >> > that he said, "O Allah's Messenger! Some women were not mentioned in the >> > Qur'an, the young, the old and the pregnant.'' Allah the Exalted and Most >> > Honored sent down this Ayah, >> >  (Those in menopause among your women, >> > for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who >> > have >> > no courses. And for those who are pregnant, their `Iddah is until they lay >> > down >> > their burden.) Ibn Abi Hatim recorded a simpler narration than this one >> > from >> > Ubay bin Ka`b who said, "O Allah's Messenger! When the Ayah in Surat >> > Al-Baqarah >> > was revealed prescribing the `Iddah of divorce, some people in Al-Madinah >> > said, >> > `There are still some women whose `Iddah has not been mentioned in the >> > Qur'an. >> > There are THE YOUNG, the old whose menstruation is discontinued, and the >> > pregnant.' Later on, this Ayah was revealed, >> >  (Those in menopause among your women, >> > for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who >> > have >> > no courses.)'' >> >  >> > Tafsir al-Jalalayn >> > And [as for] those of your women >> > who (read allÄ�’ī or allÄ�’i in both instances) no longer expect to >> > menstruate, >> > if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed >> > [waiting] >> > period shall be three months, and [also for] THOSE WHO HAVE >> > NOT YET MENSTRUATED, BECAUSE OF THEIR YOUNG AGE, >> > their period shall [also] be three months â€" both cases apply to other >> > than >> > those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is >> > prescribed in >> > the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. >> > 2:234]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their >> > prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall >> > be >> > when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for >> > him, in >> > this world and in the Hereafter. >> >  >> > Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs >> > (And for such of your women as >> > despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their >> > waiting >> > period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which >> > another >> > man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period OF THOSE >> > WHO DO >> > NOT HAVE MENSTRUATION BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO YOUNG?â€� (ALONG WITH THOSE WHO >> > HAVE >> > IT NOT) BECAUSE OF YOUNG AGE, their waiting period is three months. >> > Another man >> > asked: “what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?â€� >> > (And for >> > those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting >> > period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And >> > whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding >> > what he >> > commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter >> > easy; and >> > it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well. >> >  >> > Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi >> > (And for such of your >> > women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the >> > verse (Women >> > who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn >> > al-Nu‘man >> > ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting >> > period of >> > the woman who does not menstruate and THE WOMAN WHO HAS NOT MENSTRUATED >> > YET? >> > And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, >> > exalted is >> > He, revealed this verseâ€�. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us> Muhammad >> > ibn ‘Abd >> > Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan> Abu’l-Azhar> Asbat ibn Muhammad> >> > Mutarrif> Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting >> > period for >> > divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn >> > Ka‘b >> > said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are >> > other >> > women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are >> > they?’ He said: >> > ‘THOSE WHO ARE TOO YOUNG [SUCH THAT THEY HAVE NOT STARTED MENSTRUATING >> > YET], those >> > who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are >> > pregnant’. >> > And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of >> > menstruation…) was >> > revealedâ€�. >> >  >> >  >> > Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi - Tafhim al-Qur'an - The Meaning of the >> > Qur'an >> > 13They may not have menstruated as >> > yet either BECAUSE OF YOUNG AGE, or delayed menstrual discharge as it >> > happens >> > in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout >> > life >> > which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period >> > of >> > such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, >> > that is >> > three months from the time divorce was pronounced. >> > Here, one should bear in >> > mind the fact that according to the explanations given in the Qur'an the >> > question of the waiting period arises in respect of the women with whom >> > marriage may have been consummated, FOR THERE IS NO WAITING-PERIOD IN CASE >> > DIVORCE IS PRONOUNCED BEFORE THE CONSUMMATION OF MARRIAGE. (AL-AHZAB: 49). >> > Therefore, >> > MAKING MENTION OF THE WAITING-PERIOD FOR THE GIRLS WHO HAVE NOT YET >> > MENSTRUATED, CLEARLY PROVES THAT IT IS NOT ONLY PERMISSIBLE TO GIVE AWAY >> > THE >> > GIRL IN MARRIAGE AT THIS AGE BUT IT IS ALSO PERMISSIBLE FOR THE HUSBAND TO >> > CONSUMMATE MARRIAGE WITH HER. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to >> > forbid >> > a thing which the Qur'an has held as permissible. >> > The girl who is divorced >> > in the state when she has not yet menstruated and then she starts having >> > the >> > menses during the waiting-period, will reckon her waiting-period from the >> > same >> > menstruation and her waiting-period will be reckoned just like the woman >> > who >> > menstruates regularly. >> >  >> > >> > >> > >> > >________________________________ >> > >From: item abu <itemabu@> >> > >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> > >Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 6:14 PM >> > >Subject: [proletar] Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) married >> > >‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) when she was six years old >> > >and the marriage was consummated when she was nine years old. Narrated by >> > > al-Bukhaari (4840) and Muslim (1422). >> > > >> > >Ulama Saudi ngaku bhw nabi keparatnya itu ngembat anak ingusan 9 thn, dan >> > >ga ada batasan umur unt ngembat anak ingusan, asal si anak itu udah bisa >> > >diembat, tentunya yg dimaksud adalah kontol orang Islam bisa masuk. Jadi >> > >nabi Islam itu kepaksa nunggu sampe Aisha 9 thn baru diembat, biarpun si >> > >Aisha udah jadi bininya di usia 6 thn. Tp si Aisha bisa jg koq dipake >> > >buat ngejepit kontol nabi sambil ngelus2 kontol nabi. >> > > >> > >Masalahnya, apa orang Islam bisa baca tulisan dlm bhs Inggris ini? >> > > >> > >http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/146882 >> > > >> > >Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? >> > >146882 >> > >Fiqh of the family » Conditions of Marriage >> > >Fiqh of the family » Rulings on Marriage >> > > >> > >Is there a set age for marriage in Islam? >> > >ar - en >> > > >> > >Share | I would like to know whether there is a >> > >set age for marriage in Islam for men and women? I hope you can explain >> > >with reference to the Qur’aan and saheeh hadeeths. >> > > >> > >Praise be to Allaah. >> > >Firstly: >> > >Islam does not give a specific age for marriage, either for the husband >> > >or for the wife. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the >> > >meaning): >> > >“And for such of your women as despair of menstruation, if ye doubt, >> > >their period (of waiting) shall be three months, along with those who >> > >have it notâ€� >> > >[al-Talaaq 65:4]. >> > >Al-Sa‘di (may Allah have mercy on him) said: “along with those who >> > >have it [menses] notâ€� means minors, those who have not yet started to >> > >menstruate. Adult women who have never menstruated at all are like those >> > >who “despair of menstruationâ€� (i.e., have passed menopause); their >> > >‘iddah is three months. End quote. >> > >Tafseer al-Sa‘di, p. 870 >> > >The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) married >> > >‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) when she was six years old >> > >and the marriage was consummated when she was nine years old. Narrated by >> > > al-Bukhaari (4840) and Muslim (1422). >> > >Ibn Qudaamah (may Allah have mercy on him) said in al-Sharh al-Kabeer, >> > >7/386: >> > >With regard to females, the father may give his minor, virgin daughter >> > >who has not yet reached the age of nine in marriage, and there is no >> > >difference of opinion concerning that, if he gives her in marriage to >> > >someone who is compatible. Ibn al-Mundhir said: All of those scholars >> > >from whom we acquired knowledge unanimously agreed that it is >> > >permissible for a father to give his minor daughter in marriage if he >> > >arranges her to someone who is compatible, and it is permissible for him >> > >to do that even if she is reluctant. End quote. >> > >Secondly: >> > >No one may give a minor daughter in marriage except her father according >> > >to the view of Maalik and Ahmad. This was also the view of >> > >al-Shaafa‘i, but he regarded the grandfather as being like the father >> > >in that regard. Abu Haneefah said â€" and it was also narrated from >> > >Ahmad â€" that it is permissible for a guardian other than the father to >> > >give (the minor girl) in marriage, but the more correct view is the >> > >former one. >> > >See: al-Mughni, 7/33 >> > >Thirdly: >> > >The father should not give a minor daughter in marriage except in a case >> > >where he thinks it is in her best interests. Just as he may only dispose >> > >of her wealth in that which is in her best interests, the same applies >> > >with regard to arranging her marriage. Islam only permits that to the >> > >Muslim father who is pious and pays proper attention to the best >> > >interests of his children, and who understands very well that he is a >> > >shepherd and that he is responsible for his flock. >> > >Ibn Wahb narrated that Maalik said, with regard to a man arranging a >> > >marriage for an orphan girl under his care: If he thinks that (the >> > >husband) is a man of virtue, righteousness and wisdom, it is permissible >> > >for him to do that. >> > >Ahkaam al-Qur’aan by al-Jassaas, 2/342 >> > >Fourthly: >> > >A man should not consummate marriage with his young bride until she is >> > >physically able to bear intercourse. This varies from one time, place >> > >and environment to another. >> > >For more information please see the answers to questions no. 22442 and >> > >127176. >> > >What young men and guardians of girls should do is hasten to arrange >> > >marriages, so as to guard chastity and protect honour, and so as to >> > >attain the great purposes for which Allah ordained marriage. >> > >And Allah knows best. >> > > >> > >Islam Q&A >> > > >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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