Manurut analisa Böwering sekte Nasrani unitarian yang mempengaruhi orang gArab 
ketika itu karena Byzantin yang trinitarian nggak menganggap penting ngurusin 
Arab...

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--- In [email protected], "pemerhatidunia" <pemerhatidunia@...> wrote:
>
> > 3. KRISTEN MONOTEIS (1 Tuhan 1 Pribadi), yang dianut oleh para 
> > murid Isa sendiri. Berkembang menjadi kelompok Nasrani (kristen-
> > yahudi) yang sempat bentrok dgn kelompok Paulus, karena kelompok yg 
> > ini melakukan sunat dan tatacara puasa Yahudi dll. Pemuka kelompok
> > ini adalah Arius, uskup Alexandria Mesir.  Aliran ini kemudian amat 
> > mempengaruhi Islam.  
> 
> Dari analisis jelas Muhammad mau menjadi pendeta kristen aliran ini, percaya 
> pada Tuhan secara monotheis atau tauhid. Tapi sayangnya kristen aliran Paulus 
> tidak mau terima, maka akhirnya Muhammad memisahkan diri mendirikan agama 
> sendiri yang mengadopsi tatacara dan ajaran di Arab utara. Jadi kalau 
> Kristen-Paulus itu menyerap Yunani dan Laut Tengah, Islam menyerap ajaran 
> Nasrani monoteis dan Yahudi yang ada di sekitar Arab bagian utara.   
> 
> Jadi Muhammad itu dari kacamata pengikut Isa tidak salah niatnya, tapi 
> caranya itu yang salah, yaitu dengan pasukan bersenjata merampoki dan 
> menyerang kota2 dan mengislamkan mereka. Ternyata metode ini sukses.  
> 
> Maka jadilah sampai sekarang, orang terilhami kesuksesan Muhammad lalu 
> melakukan hal yang sama. Jelas juga kenapa kalau Islam dihina jawabannya 
> adalah senjata atau hukuman. Jelas kalau mereka dianiaya, jawaban mereka 
> adalah kekerasan. Kekerasan itu embedded, terekam jejaknya mulai dari 
> Muhammad, anak cucu dan penerusnya yang terus menerus bunuh2an hingga 
> sekarang.   
> 
> Itulah balada nabi yang tertolak tapi sukses berinovasi memakai cara 
> kekerasan dan hukum syariat. Dua hal itu sudah diganti oleh Isa Almasih 
> ketika beliau membatalkan hukum agama Yahudi dan menggantinya dengan 
> spiritualitas. Tapi Muhammad mundur kembali lagi pada hukum agama Yahudi lama 
> itu (kalau kalian bandingkan praktek dan prinsip agama Yahudi jaman dulu di 
> Perjanjian Lama Bible dengan Al-Quran kalian akan mendapati banyak sekali 
> kesamaan.   
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "pemerhatidunia" <pemerhatidunia@> wrote:
> >
> > Kristen booming di China, kemungkinan karena central values orang China 
> > (buddhist) tidak banyak beda dari Kristen. 
> > 
> > Lalu bagaimana dengan Indonesia?? 
> > 
> > Bisakah Islam dikembalikan pada akarnya, Muhammad di Mekkah, aliran 
> > pengikut Isa yang monotheist, seperti halnya para murid Jesus yang Yahudi, 
> > aliran Kristen Arianisme di Mesir, atau Kristen aliran MONOTHEIS atau 
> > aliran TAUHID sebagaimana diajarkan oleh manusia ISA ALMASIH ???
> > 
> > Pengikut Isa itu sejak dulu terpecah menjadi 3 (tiga) aliran besar:
> > 
> > 1. KRISTEN TRINITARIAN, (1 Tuhan 3 Pribadi) aliran Paulus, yang 
> > menggabungkan ajaran Isa dengan filosofi Yunani dan Laut Tengah, Mitraisme 
> > dan Romawi, menjadi Kristen mainstream sekarang yang berpatokan pada dogma 
> > dan teologi dari Bible Perjanjian Lama dan Baru. 
> > 
> > 2. KRISTEN GNOSTIK ( 1 Tuhan, dua tabiat maskulin dan feminin), adalah 
> > aliran yang dimusnahkan oleh kelompok pertama, melahirkan kitab2 absah 
> > seperti penemuan Nag Hammadi (coba cari), antara lain Injil Thomas, Maria, 
> > dll. Baca kitab2 itu di www.earlychristianwritings.com/gnostics.html 
> > Kristen ini amat berciri mistik, anti-dogma, esoterik, personal, pengalaman 
> > subyektif. Aliran mistik teosofi dan witchcraft menganggap Tuhan itu 
> > berciri dualisme laki-perempuan. Pengikut aliran ini antara lain adalah 
> > penulis novel DaVinci Code. 
> > 
> > 3. KRISTEN MONOTEIS (1 Tuhan 1 Pribadi), yang dianut oleh para murid Isa 
> > sendiri. Berkembang menjadi kelompok Nasrani (kristen-yahudi) yang sempat 
> > bentrok dgn kelompok Paulus, karena kelompok yg ini melakukan sunat dan 
> > tatacara puasa Yahudi dll. Pemuka kelompok ini adalah Arius, uskup 
> > Alexandria Mesir.  Aliran ini kemudian amat mempengaruhi Islam.  
> > 
> > Ketiganya masih ada dan kemenangan aliran pertama atas Kekaisaran Romawi 
> > menyebabkan aliran kedua dan ketiga dilenyapkan dengan melalui beberapa 
> > konvensi. Kristen didogmatisir, dogma atau teori Trinity dan Penebusan 
> > masuk, yang lain dikalahkan. Muhammad mempertahankan pendapatnya dan 
> > mendirikan Islam dari kelompok ketiga.
> > 
> > Mari, jangan biarkan pendapat ketiga ini mati... Ada kebenaran di dalamnya, 
> > bahwa ISA itu MANUSIA dan kita bisa meneladani hidup manusia ISA ini dalam 
> > perjuangan mencari syurga.   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > BBC
> > 23 August 2010 Last updated at 23:52 GMT
> > 
> > China invests in confident Christians
> > By Christopher Landau BBC News, China
> > Students at National Catholic Seminary, Beijing The National Catholic 
> > Seminary in Beijing prepares many for the priesthood
> > 
> > Three decades ago, China's Cultural Revolution saw some of the most 
> > dramatic restrictions on the practice of religion ever seen in the modern 
> > world.
> > 
> > But today's communist rulers have radically altered their views about 
> > religion and have granted substantial freedom to Christians prepared to 
> > worship within state-sanctioned churches.
> > 
> > Within these boundaries, Christianity is growing in China as never before - 
> > and doing so supported by millions of dollars of government funding.
> > 
> > The BBC has been given unprecedented access to China's state-sanctioned 
> > Protestant and Catholic churches, to examine why the government seems so 
> > keen to invest in religion.
> > State funding
> > 
> > On the outskirts of Nanjing, a building site illustrates the scale of the 
> > communist state's commitment to supporting the development of Christianity.
> > 
> > Local officials say that the building under construction will become 
> > China's largest state-sanctioned church - with space for 5,000 worshippers.
> > 
> > The land - and 20% of the building costs - are being provided not by local 
> > Christians, but by the municipal government.
> > 
> > It represents state financial support worth millions of dollars - just one 
> > example of the strategy to encourage the development of religion in China.
> > Director General, State Administration for Religious Affairs, Wang Zuo An 
> > Mr Wang says Christianity is growing faster than ever
> > 
> > The Communist Party's senior official with responsibility for this policy 
> > is the director general of the State Administration for Religious Affairs, 
> > Wang Zuo An.
> > 
> > In a rare interview, he told me that there are now at least 20m Protestant 
> > Christians in China worshipping in the state-sanctioned church.
> > 
> > "Such growth is unprecedented in the history of Christianity in China. 
> > Christianity is enjoying its best period of growth in China," he said.
> > 
> > And he explained why the Chinese state is investing in religious faith - 
> > support which has included funding the construction of national Protestant 
> > and Catholic seminaries educating hundreds of future Christian leaders each 
> > year.
> > 
> > "Our goal in supporting these religions in developing religious education 
> > is that we hope they can train qualified clergy members so that their 
> > religions can enjoy better development."
> > 
> > But there is no small irony in the party's new-found enthusiasm for 
> > supporting the development of religion in China, given Communism's 
> > commitment to atheism.
> > Continue reading the main story
> > "Start Quote
> > 
> >     I think this nation will change, and I think God is doing great things 
> > in China"
> > 
> > Jesse Chinese student
> > 
> > "On the question of whether there is God, the Chinese Communist Party 
> > believes there is no God in the world," said Mr Wang.
> > 
> > "The Communist Party believes that it should respect and protect religious 
> > belief. The members of the party must respect religious followers and not 
> > infringe their interests."
> > 
> > He insists that there is no contradiction between the Communist Party 
> > insisting that its own members are non-religious, and the communist 
> > government's commitment to investing in religious development.
> > 
> > "We are making laws and regulations to better guarantee religious belief in 
> > China," he says.
> > Social role
> > 
> > At the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, a professor who specialises in 
> > the study of Christianity believes that there are various factors 
> > contributing to its growth.
> > 
> > Professor Xhuo Xinping says that there is a spiritual appeal, and a 
> > potential association with economic prosperity.
> > 
> > But he says Christianity will finally shake off imperialist associations if 
> > churches are prepared to act as a servant to Chinese society.
> > Fr Zhang and resident at old people's home, China Father John Zhang 
> > interprets the church mission as social work and service
> > 
> > "Many Christians pay special attention to social work and social service. I 
> > think this is the correct way for Christianity to develop," he said.
> > 
> > One Catholic priest who has pioneered such work in China is the Rev John 
> > Zhang - whose Jinde charities receive support from Catholics around the 
> > world.
> > 
> > I visited the old people's home he runs in Shijiazhuang City, where he told 
> > me why he thinks the government welcomes the church's contribution.
> > 
> > "Homes for the aged are urgent. We need more and more. The government 
> > realised that."
> > 
> > "Some officials say, you have done for Chinese society what we cannot do. 
> > Without any political involvement, the church is doing a good job, and we 
> > from government appreciate it," said Father Zhang.
> > 
> > The enthusiasm of the communist authorities for his church-run initiative 
> > is such that even the Communist Youth League used the old people's home as 
> > a base for a charitable project.
> > Confident Christians
> > 
> > But there is still a question about whether as China's Christians grow in 
> > confidence they will be prepared to continue to accept the limitations on 
> > their freedom.
> > 
> > At Beijing's Haidian Church, the Senior Pastor Wu Weiqing is candid about 
> > the problems he faces, but also enthusiastic about the level of religious 
> > liberty he enjoys.
> > Worshippers at Haidian church, Beijing More and more Chinese are beginning 
> > to practise the Christian faith
> > 
> > "We do have problems, struggling with some kind of regulations, I have to 
> > be true to you. But because we are registered, because we obey the 
> > regulations and laws, we enjoy more freedom.
> > 
> > "I'm very happy, I enjoy my service as a pastor. I sometimes encourage 
> > people who work for the so-called house churches to come to this kind of 
> > church to worship," said Pastor Wu.
> > 
> > Those house churches - the unregistered, or underground churches, which 
> > were the only place to worship during the repression of the Cultural 
> > Revolution - remain a significant part of the Chinese Christian landscape.
> > 
> > But both the Catholic and Protestant churches sanctioned by the state are 
> > now also seeing levels of growth that few predicted in the 1980s.
> > 
> > Two students I met at an evening service of prayer and praise at Haidian 
> > church summed up the optimism felt by growing numbers of young Chinese 
> > Christians.
> > 
> > "We truly hope [that in] our country there will be more Christians, and 
> > God's word will spread everywhere in our country", said Daniel.
> > 
> > His fellow student Jesse added, "I think this nation will change, and I 
> > think God is doing great things in China."
> > 
> > There is no doubting the confidence of these Christians.
> > 
> > But there is also no guarantee about the sort of future the communist 
> > government will allow the churches it is currently keen to support.
> > 
> > To hear more about state-sanctioned Christianity in China, tune in to this 
> > week's Heart and Soul on the BBC World Service at 1230 GMT on Wednesday 25 
> > August.
> > More on This Story
> > Related stories
> > 
> >     Keeping the faith in China 25 DECEMBER 2007, ASIA-PACIFIC
> >     Chinese Christians in riot trial 22 DECEMBER 2006, ASIA-PACIFIC
> >     Blueprint for Vatican-China talks 06 MARCH 2007, ASIA-PACIFIC
> >     Chinese Christians arrested 19 JUNE 2003, ASIA-PACIFIC
> >
>




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