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Coba jawab itu dulu deh -----Original Message----- From: item abu <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:54:50 To: [email protected]<[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [proletar] Kerjaan orang Islam di sorga Nabi itu gila sex sedangkan nabi itu hrs jadi contoh tauladan. Jadi kenapa nabi gila sex ini ga boleh diomongin? Malu punya nabi gila sex? >________________________________ >From: Roman Proteus <[email protected]> >To: Proletar <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 3:50 PM >Subject: Re: [proletar] Kerjaan orang Islam di sorga > > > >Gak salah, kalau mau bahas gak usah bawa bawa nabi, ya kecuali otak bajingan >sih gua maklum maklum aja > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: "Sunny" <[email protected]> >Sender: [email protected] >Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:02:19 >To: <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [proletar] Kerjaan orang Islam di sorga > >Apa salahnya doyang sex? Sex itu berkat. > >From: item abu >Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 4:14 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [proletar] Kerjaan orang Islam di sorga > > >Krn gua sering ngomongin ajaran Islam yg penuh dgn ajaran sex bejad, maka >orang Islam bilang gua doyan sex dll. Padahal kalo dibandingkan dgn nabi >Islam, gua sih ga ada apa2nya dlm soal sex, krn nabi keparat itu kerjanya >ngegilir bini, merkosa anak ingusan dan mungkin jg cewek tawanan. > >Di sorga Islam jg orang2 Islam itu kerjanya ngesex doang, ada 72 bidadari >perawan abadi yg teteknya gede2 disediakan auloh unt orang Islam soleh yg >masuk sorga. Apa artinya doyan sex sampe ngeorgi atau gangbang di sorga itu >sesuatu yg bejad sampe gua dituduh doyan sex dsb? > >Sebetulnya ga cuma bidadari aja yg disediakan auloh, ada lagi pemuda cantik di >sorga buat ngeservis orang islam. Ngservis gimana? Hehehe.... kalo gua bilang >sih pemuda2 cantik itu bisa diembat lobang pantatnya, bisa jg disuruh ngembat >lobang pantat orang Islam soleh, makanya auloh sampe spesifik bilang anak muda >spt mutiara, bukan sekedar jongos. > >Jadi kenapa orang islam ga suka gua ngomongin ajaran islam yg penuh dgn sex >bejad itu? Jawabnya adalah orang2 Islam ini adalah bajingan2 munafik, mereka >malu dgn kebejadan yg ada di ajaran Islam tp sambil mereka jg doyan dgn >kebejadan tsb. Maka mereka ga mau diomongin, sambil mereka jg nikmatin. > >Dlm hal ini, mendingan si suryana, ga malu2 ngaku doyan ke tempat pelacuran, >biarpun tau bhw itu adalah bejad. Soalnya kan nikmat, hehehe... > >72 Virgins >From WikiIslam >Jump to: navigation, search > >An artist impression of the 72 virgins. Quran, hadith and Islamic scholars >mention that virgins will be awarded to Muslims in heaven. >This article discusses what the Qur'an, hadith and Islamic scholars say about >the 72 Virgins, and their physical, sexual and personality attributes. > >Contents[hide] >* 1 Introduction >* 2 Descriptions >* 3 Round/Swollen Breasts >* 4 Martyrs of Jihad Will Be Rewarded >* 5 Other Hadiths >* 6 Conclusion >* 7 Responses to Apologetics >* 8 See Also >* 9 External Links >* 10 References > >Introduction > >In Islam, the concept of 72 virgins (houri) refers to an aspect of paradise. >In the Sunan al-Tirmidhi, one of the six major Hadith collections,[1] it >states: > >It was mentioned by Daraj Ibn Abi Hatim, that Abu al-Haytham 'Adullah Ibn >Wahb narrated from Abu Sa'id al-Khudhri, who heard the Prophet Muhammad >PBUH saying, 'The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode >where there are eighty thousand servants and seventy-two houri, over which >stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the >distance from al-Jabiyyah to San'a.[2][3] > >This concept is also quoted by Ibn Kathir, in his Qur'anic Commentary of >Qur'an 55:72 in the Tafsir ibn Kathir. >Orthodox Muslim theologians such as al Ghazali (died 1111 CE) and Al-Ash'ari >(died 935 CE) have "admitted sensual pleasures into >paradise". > >The sensual pleasures are graphically elaborated by Qur'anic commentator and >polymath, Al-Suyuti (died 1505). He wrote: > >Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of >the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that >you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this >world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each >chosen one [i.e. Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the >women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas.[4] > >The Qur'an mentions that Muslim men will be rewarded with virgins: > >Then We have made them virgins > >Qur'an 56:36 > >The Qur'an also mentions attributes of these virgins in various other verses. > >Descriptions > >There are several descriptions related to houri that are found in various >Islamic references. Some include: >* Physical Attributes: >* Wide and beautiful/lovely eyes [5][6][7] >* Like pearls [8] >* Hairless except the eye brows and the head [9] >* Beautiful [10] >* White [11] >* 60 cubits [27.5 meters] tall [12][13][14] >* 7 cubits [3.2 meters] in width [14] >* Transparent to the marrow of their bones [15][10] >* Eternally young [9] >* Companions of equal age [16][17] * Sexual Attributes: >* Untouched / with hymen unbroken by sexual intercourse [18][19] >* Virgins [20] >* Voluptuous/full-breasted [16] >* With large, round breasts which are not inclined to hang [15] >* Appetizing vaginas [4] >* Personality Attributes >* Chaste females [5] >* Restraining their glances [5][18] >* Modest gaze [21] >* Other Attributes >* Splendid [22] >* Pure [10] >* Non-menstruating / non-urinating/ non-defecating and childfree [15][14] > >Round/Swollen Breasts > > >In addition to Quranic translations of 78:33 specifying the virgins will be >voluptuous[16], Sahih International translates it as "full-breasted >[companions] of equal age". Tafsir al-Jalalayn says "and buxom maidens >(kawā‘ib is the plural of kā‘ib) of equal age (atrāb is the plural of tirb)". >Several Islamic scholars explain that they will have "large, round breasts >which are not inclined to hang".[15] > >Relating to the mention of virgins in the Qur'an, several translators like >Hilali-Khan,[23] Arthur John Arberry, Abdul Daryabadi, Umm Muhammad, Edward >Henry >Palmer, Ahmed Ali, John Medows Rodwell, Ali Ünal, George Sale, Muhammad >Sarwar, and Tahir-ul-Qadri have interpreted Qur'an 78:33 to refer to "full >grown", "swelling" or "pears-shaped" breasts.[24][25] > >In his tafsir, Ibn Kathir wrote that the verse describes the physical >attributes of the virgins. He construed the verse as: > >This means round breasts. They meant by this that the breasts of these girls >will be fully rounded and not sagging, because they will be virgins, >equal in age.[26] > >Shaykh Gibril Haddad comments on the erotic nature of this verse, saying some >men may need ghusl (ablution required after sexual discharge) just for hearing >the verse: > >Qur'an does mention that for the inhabitants of Paradise - male and female - >{There wait on them immortal youths} (56:17), {There serve them youths >of everlasting youth, whom, when you see them, you would take for >scattered pearls} (76:19). If this does not make a believing woman happy then, >as Imam al-Shafi`i said to the one who is not moved by erotic >poetry, "You have no feelings." As for the believing men, as one of the >Awliya said, some of them will need ghusl just for hearing the verse >{Same-age young-bosomed girls} (78:33). As for us hard-hearted >analphabets we may read it and read it without effect.[27] > >Martyrs of Jihad Will Be Rewarded > >The Qur'an mentions that whose who fight in the way of Allah and get killed >will be given a great reward: > >Let those (believers) Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter >fight in the cause of Allah and whoso fights in the cause of Allah, - >and is slain or gets victory, We shall bestow on him a great reward. > >Qur'an 4:74 > >This verse and others like it motivate terrorists and suicide bombers. > >Some Muslims use the 72 Virgins concept to meet certain goals, >e.g. as a way to entice other Muslims into carrying out heinous >activities that may endanger their lives. It is most often used to >entice Muslims into carrying out "martyrdom operations" as suicide >bombers who will be rewarded with 72 virgins in paradise for their >sacrifice. In one event, British Muslim teenage boys were told to train >with Kalashnikov rifles and promised 72 virgins in paradise if they died as >religious martyrs.[28] > >Other Hadiths > >Allah’s Apostle (The blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "In >Paradise there is a pavilion made of a single hollow pearl sixty miles >wide, in each corner of which there are wives who will not see those in >the other corners; and the believers will visit and enjoy them." > >Sahih Bukhari 6:60:402 > >Conclusion >* The Qur'an promises men voluptuous[16] virgins[20] but does not specify >their exact number >* Hadiths specify the exact number as 72 >* Islam does not specify these virgins are for terrorists or martyrs but >rather for any Muslim male >* Many characteristics of the virgins have been described in various Islamic >sources > >Responses to Apologetics >1. "The Qur'an doesnt talk about 72 virgins, only the hadiths" >Even though the Qur'an does not mention the number of virgins, it does say in >verse 56:36[20] that Muslim men will be awarded with virgins in Islamic >heaven. Quran >describes their physical attributes for example they will have large >eyes (56:22) and big breasts (78:33)[16] and so on. The actual number of >houris is thus a minor issue and 72 is >the number of those houris confirmed in multiple hadith. The hadiths are a >crucial part of Islam and certain Muslims ignore them because >sometimes they contain uncomfortable details about Islam. See Qur'an only >Islam - Why it is not possible. There are many hadiths and Qur'anic verses >which talk about various issues of a sexual nature. According to Sahih Bukhari >1:5:268 which belongs to the most authentic collection of hadiths, Muhammad >himself was given the sexual strength of 30 men and so on. >2. "Obviously this hadith has been made up, is unreliable and/or is a lie" >See answer to #1 above. >3. "The Qur'an doesnt talk about the number of virgins being seventy two" >See answer to #1 above. >4. "It is talking about (white) raisins, not virgins" >This is a false myth originating from Christoph Luxenberg, a recent author >with a pseudonym who has no known qualifications or >authority on Islamic issues and who has ignored quotations from the >Qur'an, hadith and Islamic scholars. The Qur'an describes the physical >characteristics of the virgins in many places. Raisins which are dried >grapes, cannot have large eyes (56:22), big breasts (78:33), cannot be >described as virgin[20] or have any of the characteristics referenced above. >Qur'an 44:54[29] says the men will be wed to houris. Men cannot be married to >raisins or white grapes. >5. "Islam prohibits suicide (bombing)" >Yes, hadith do exist that prohibit suicide (Suicide bombing however is a >seperate issue) but this has nothing to do with the fact >that Islam promises women in heaven as a reward for the "righteous" >(i.e. Muslims). >6. "If the seventy two virgins thing was something big in Islam it would be >talked about more frequently." >Women >in Islamic heaven as a reward are talked about frequently in the Qur'an >as evidenced by the various places in the Qur'an where their >characteristics are talked about. Also if the Qur'an talks about a >certain issue only once, it cannot be taken lightly in any way as every >word and sentence in the Qur'an is important and holy to Muslims. >7. "The houris are for both men and women" >The >Qur'an explicitly talks about female virgins with large eyes as rewards >for men. On the contrary there is not a single "women will get guys as a >reward" verse. Some gender neutral verses do exist but they talk about >general rewards only (such as "companionship" etc). >8. "The houris are only servants and not for sexual purposes" >If that was true, Qur'an 56:36[20] wouldn't say they are virgins and it >wouldn't mention they have big >breasts. In addition, while the Qur'an does not explicitly say they're >for sexual purposes, other Islamic sources mention that. One hadith says "The >believer will be given such and such strength in Paradise for >sexual intercourse". Other sources state that "the penis of the Elected >never softens" and that men in heaven will have the sexual strength of >100 men. [30] See Sexuality in Paradise for more quotes about the sexual >aspects of Islamic heaven. > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! 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