Hehehe... orang Islam ga berani ngebahas nabinya yg katanya adalah manusia paling sempurna sepanjang masa.
Padahal di tiap ceramah, si dai selalu ngejilat pantat nabi, jadi kenapa di hadapan gua orang Islam ga berani ngomongin nabinya? Orang Islam cuma bisa ngefitnah gua, ga bisa kaing2 yg lainnya sama sekali. Nunjukin kayak apa kualitas orang Islam, hehehe.... >________________________________ >From: Roman Proteus <[email protected]> >To: Proletar <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 4:11 PM >Subject: Re: [proletar] Kerjaan orang Islam di sorga > > > > >Kalau sama elo yok kita bahas, elo homo atau elo gak puas sama bini elo, atau >terobsesi ayat ayat di injil? > >Coba jawab itu dulu deh > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: item abu <[email protected]> >Sender: [email protected] >Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:54:50 >To: [email protected]<[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [proletar] Kerjaan orang Islam di sorga > >Nabi itu gila sex sedangkan nabi itu hrs jadi contoh tauladan. Jadi kenapa >nabi gila sex ini ga boleh diomongin? Malu punya nabi gila sex? > > > > >>________________________________ >>From: Roman Proteus <[email protected]> >>To: Proletar <[email protected]> >>Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 3:50 PM >>Subject: Re: [proletar] Kerjaan orang Islam di sorga >> >> >> >>Gak salah, kalau mau bahas gak usah bawa bawa nabi, ya kecuali otak bajingan >>sih gua maklum maklum aja >> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: "Sunny" <[email protected]> >>Sender: [email protected] >>Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:02:19 >>To: <[email protected]> >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [proletar] Kerjaan orang Islam di sorga >> >>Apa salahnya doyang sex? Sex itu berkat. >> >>From: item abu >>Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 4:14 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [proletar] Kerjaan orang Islam di sorga >> >> >>Krn gua sering ngomongin ajaran Islam yg penuh dgn ajaran sex bejad, maka >>orang Islam bilang gua doyan sex dll. Padahal kalo dibandingkan dgn nabi >>Islam, gua sih ga ada apa2nya dlm soal sex, krn nabi keparat itu kerjanya >>ngegilir bini, merkosa anak ingusan dan mungkin jg cewek tawanan. >> >>Di sorga Islam jg orang2 Islam itu kerjanya ngesex doang, ada 72 bidadari >>perawan abadi yg teteknya gede2 disediakan auloh unt orang Islam soleh yg >>masuk sorga. Apa artinya doyan sex sampe ngeorgi atau gangbang di sorga itu >>sesuatu yg bejad sampe gua dituduh doyan sex dsb? >> >>Sebetulnya ga cuma bidadari aja yg disediakan auloh, ada lagi pemuda cantik >>di sorga buat ngeservis orang islam. Ngservis gimana? Hehehe.... kalo gua >>bilang sih pemuda2 cantik itu bisa diembat lobang pantatnya, bisa jg disuruh >>ngembat lobang pantat orang Islam soleh, makanya auloh sampe spesifik bilang >>anak muda spt mutiara, bukan sekedar jongos. >> >>Jadi kenapa orang islam ga suka gua ngomongin ajaran islam yg penuh dgn sex >>bejad itu? Jawabnya adalah orang2 Islam ini adalah bajingan2 munafik, mereka >>malu dgn kebejadan yg ada di ajaran Islam tp sambil mereka jg doyan dgn >>kebejadan tsb. Maka mereka ga mau diomongin, sambil mereka jg nikmatin. >> >>Dlm hal ini, mendingan si suryana, ga malu2 ngaku doyan ke tempat pelacuran, >>biarpun tau bhw itu adalah bejad. Soalnya kan nikmat, hehehe... >> >>72 Virgins >>From WikiIslam >>Jump to: navigation, search >> >>An artist impression of the 72 virgins. Quran, hadith and Islamic scholars >>mention that virgins will be awarded to Muslims in heaven. >>This article discusses what the Qur'an, hadith and Islamic scholars say about >>the 72 Virgins, and their physical, sexual and personality attributes. >> >>Contents[hide] >>* 1 Introduction >>* 2 Descriptions >>* 3 Round/Swollen Breasts >>* 4 Martyrs of Jihad Will Be Rewarded >>* 5 Other Hadiths >>* 6 Conclusion >>* 7 Responses to Apologetics >>* 8 See Also >>* 9 External Links >>* 10 References >> >>Introduction >> >>In Islam, the concept of 72 virgins (houri) refers to an aspect of paradise. >>In the Sunan al-Tirmidhi, one of the six major Hadith collections,[1] it >>states: >> >>It was mentioned by Daraj Ibn Abi Hatim, that Abu al-Haytham 'Adullah Ibn >>Wahb narrated from Abu Sa'id al-Khudhri, who heard the Prophet Muhammad >>PBUH saying, 'The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode >>where there are eighty thousand servants and seventy-two houri, over which >>stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the >>distance from al-Jabiyyah to San'a.[2][3] >> >>This concept is also quoted by Ibn Kathir, in his Qur'anic Commentary of >>Qur'an 55:72 in the Tafsir ibn Kathir. >>Orthodox Muslim theologians such as al Ghazali (died 1111 CE) and Al-Ash'ari >>(died 935 CE) have "admitted sensual pleasures into >>paradise". >> >>The sensual pleasures are graphically elaborated by Qur'anic commentator and >>polymath, Al-Suyuti (died 1505). He wrote: >> >>Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of >>the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that >>you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this >>world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each >>chosen one [i.e. Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the >>women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas.[4] >> >>The Qur'an mentions that Muslim men will be rewarded with virgins: >> >>Then We have made them virgins >> >>Qur'an 56:36 >> >>The Qur'an also mentions attributes of these virgins in various other verses. >> >>Descriptions >> >>There are several descriptions related to houri that are found in various >>Islamic references. Some include: >>* Physical Attributes: >>* Wide and beautiful/lovely eyes [5][6][7] >>* Like pearls [8] >>* Hairless except the eye brows and the head [9] >>* Beautiful [10] >>* White [11] >>* 60 cubits [27.5 meters] tall [12][13][14] >>* 7 cubits [3.2 meters] in width [14] >>* Transparent to the marrow of their bones [15][10] >>* Eternally young [9] >>* Companions of equal age [16][17] * Sexual Attributes: >>* Untouched / with hymen unbroken by sexual intercourse [18][19] >>* Virgins [20] >>* Voluptuous/full-breasted [16] >>* With large, round breasts which are not inclined to hang [15] >>* Appetizing vaginas [4] >>* Personality Attributes >>* Chaste females [5] >>* Restraining their glances [5][18] >>* Modest gaze [21] >>* Other Attributes >>* Splendid [22] >>* Pure [10] >>* Non-menstruating / non-urinating/ non-defecating and childfree [15][14] >> >>Round/Swollen Breasts >> >> >>In addition to Quranic translations of 78:33 specifying the virgins will be >>voluptuous[16], Sahih International translates it as "full-breasted >>[companions] of equal age". Tafsir al-Jalalayn says "and buxom maidens >>(kawā‘ib is the plural of kā‘ib) of equal age (atrāb is the plural of tirb)". >>Several Islamic scholars explain that they will have "large, round breasts >>which are not inclined to hang".[15] >> >>Relating to the mention of virgins in the Qur'an, several translators like >>Hilali-Khan,[23] Arthur John Arberry, Abdul Daryabadi, Umm Muhammad, Edward >>Henry >>Palmer, Ahmed Ali, John Medows Rodwell, Ali Ünal, George Sale, Muhammad >>Sarwar, and Tahir-ul-Qadri have interpreted Qur'an 78:33 to refer to "full >>grown", "swelling" or "pears-shaped" breasts.[24][25] >> >>In his tafsir, Ibn Kathir wrote that the verse describes the physical >>attributes of the virgins. He construed the verse as: >> >>This means round breasts. They meant by this that the breasts of these girls >>will be fully rounded and not sagging, because they will be virgins, >>equal in age.[26] >> >>Shaykh Gibril Haddad comments on the erotic nature of this verse, saying some >>men may need ghusl (ablution required after sexual discharge) just for >>hearing the verse: >> >>Qur'an does mention that for the inhabitants of Paradise - male and female - >>{There wait on them immortal youths} (56:17), {There serve them youths >>of everlasting youth, whom, when you see them, you would take for >>scattered pearls} (76:19). If this does not make a believing woman happy >>then, as Imam al-Shafi`i said to the one who is not moved by erotic >>poetry, "You have no feelings." As for the believing men, as one of the >>Awliya said, some of them will need ghusl just for hearing the verse >>{Same-age young-bosomed girls} (78:33). As for us hard-hearted >>analphabets we may read it and read it without effect.[27] >> >>Martyrs of Jihad Will Be Rewarded >> >>The Qur'an mentions that whose who fight in the way of Allah and get killed >>will be given a great reward: >> >>Let those (believers) Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter >>fight in the cause of Allah and whoso fights in the cause of Allah, - >>and is slain or gets victory, We shall bestow on him a great reward. >> >>Qur'an 4:74 >> >>This verse and others like it motivate terrorists and suicide bombers. >> >>Some Muslims use the 72 Virgins concept to meet certain goals, >>e.g. as a way to entice other Muslims into carrying out heinous >>activities that may endanger their lives. It is most often used to >>entice Muslims into carrying out "martyrdom operations" as suicide >>bombers who will be rewarded with 72 virgins in paradise for their >>sacrifice. In one event, British Muslim teenage boys were told to train >>with Kalashnikov rifles and promised 72 virgins in paradise if they died as >>religious martyrs.[28] >> >>Other Hadiths >> >>Allah’s Apostle (The blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "In >>Paradise there is a pavilion made of a single hollow pearl sixty miles >>wide, in each corner of which there are wives who will not see those in >>the other corners; and the believers will visit and enjoy them." >> >>Sahih Bukhari 6:60:402 >> >>Conclusion >>* The Qur'an promises men voluptuous[16] virgins[20] but does not specify >>their exact number >>* Hadiths specify the exact number as 72 >>* Islam does not specify these virgins are for terrorists or martyrs but >>rather for any Muslim male >>* Many characteristics of the virgins have been described in various Islamic >>sources >> >>Responses to Apologetics >>1. "The Qur'an doesnt talk about 72 virgins, only the hadiths" >>Even though the Qur'an does not mention the number of virgins, it does say in >>verse 56:36[20] that Muslim men will be awarded with virgins in Islamic >>heaven. Quran >>describes their physical attributes for example they will have large >>eyes (56:22) and big breasts (78:33)[16] and so on. The actual number of >>houris is thus a minor issue and 72 is >>the number of those houris confirmed in multiple hadith. The hadiths are a >>crucial part of Islam and certain Muslims ignore them because >>sometimes they contain uncomfortable details about Islam. See Qur'an only >>Islam - Why it is not possible. There are many hadiths and Qur'anic verses >>which talk about various issues of a sexual nature. According to Sahih >>Bukhari 1:5:268 which belongs to the most authentic collection of hadiths, >>Muhammad himself was given the sexual strength of 30 men and so on. >>2. "Obviously this hadith has been made up, is unreliable and/or is a lie" >>See answer to #1 above. >>3. "The Qur'an doesnt talk about the number of virgins being seventy two" >>See answer to #1 above. >>4. "It is talking about (white) raisins, not virgins" >>This is a false myth originating from Christoph Luxenberg, a recent author >>with a pseudonym who has no known qualifications or >>authority on Islamic issues and who has ignored quotations from the >>Qur'an, hadith and Islamic scholars. The Qur'an describes the physical >>characteristics of the virgins in many places. Raisins which are dried >>grapes, cannot have large eyes (56:22), big breasts (78:33), cannot be >>described as virgin[20] or have any of the characteristics referenced above. >>Qur'an 44:54[29] says the men will be wed to houris. Men cannot be married to >>raisins or white grapes. >>5. "Islam prohibits suicide (bombing)" >>Yes, hadith do exist that prohibit suicide (Suicide bombing however is a >>seperate issue) but this has nothing to do with the fact >>that Islam promises women in heaven as a reward for the "righteous" >>(i.e. Muslims). >>6. "If the seventy two virgins thing was something big in Islam it would be >>talked about more frequently." >>Women >>in Islamic heaven as a reward are talked about frequently in the Qur'an >>as evidenced by the various places in the Qur'an where their >>characteristics are talked about. Also if the Qur'an talks about a >>certain issue only once, it cannot be taken lightly in any way as every >>word and sentence in the Qur'an is important and holy to Muslims. >>7. "The houris are for both men and women" >>The >>Qur'an explicitly talks about female virgins with large eyes as rewards >>for men. On the contrary there is not a single "women will get guys as a >>reward" verse. Some gender neutral verses do exist but they talk about >>general rewards only (such as "companionship" etc). >>8. "The houris are only servants and not for sexual purposes" >>If that was true, Qur'an 56:36[20] wouldn't say they are virgins and it >>wouldn't mention they have big >>breasts. In addition, while the Qur'an does not explicitly say they're >>for sexual purposes, other Islamic sources mention that. One hadith says "The >>believer will be given such and such strength in Paradise for >>sexual intercourse". Other sources state that "the penis of the Elected >>never softens" and that men in heaven will have the sexual strength of >>100 men. 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