On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 13:04, Richard Hartmann <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear all, > > as most of you know, the Prometheus governance[1] has three levels of > formalized decision making. In increasing order of strength and > requirements, they are: > * Consensus > * Majority vote > * Supermajority vote > > > The consensus definition is taken from CouchDB[2] and goes deeply into > its intention to be lightweight and easy to reverse. Yet, a careful > and literal reading of it enshrines what is factually a veto > mechanism. Vetos are easy to utter but hard to unblock short of voting > or an in-between secondary consensus mechanism we have come to call > "Call for Consensus" on the mailing lists. > > In practice, it sometimes feels as if consensus is heavier a process > than outright voting, an order which goes against the initial > intention behind our governance. > > Contrast this to the IETF definition[3] which is more > formal, but explicitly acknowledges that "Rough consensus is when all > issues are addressed, but not necessarily accommodated". IETF has > decades of experience with highly contentious topics which are, > sometimes, discussed by directly opposed parties. It's important to > note that the IETF rough consensus mechanism presumes the existence of > Chairs, but I think we would not need to rely on such heavyweight > process. > > Personally, I am more used to the IETF definition and have not seen > the CouchDB version seen wide adoption, which is part of the reason > why I adopted rough IETF consensus for the Grafana governance[4] > recently released. > How does this work in practice, who decides if an issue is "addressed"? This sounds like it might boil down to the same thing in reality. Brian > In order to make Prometheus move more quickly and more smoothly, I > would like to suggest adoption the following change: > > https://github.com/prometheus/docs/commit/f7ee6ac5a9b841be6be25d92e2c403de15949491 > > > Best, > Richard > > [1] https://prometheus.io/governance/ > [2] https://couchdb.apache.org/bylaws.html#lazy > [3] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7282 > [4] https://github.com/grafana/grafana/blob/master/GOVERNANCE.md > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Prometheus Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/CAD77%2BgRvwnU%2BdFRMQ2n%2Bqf6D0oyej-btzsQYh8LjBV9FJ1a78w%40mail.gmail.com > . > -- Brian Brazil www.robustperception.io -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Prometheus Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/prometheus-developers/CAHJKeLp4HvHPrEnv-PmE8C-jQs5UTh9SO8kMxuc3gVitwgW9Sg%40mail.gmail.com.
