On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 at 09:32, Federico Buti <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> A few months ago we introduced target down rules to keep track of targets
> that were missing. The rules are relatively simple being something like e.g.
>
> alert: target_down_slower_scraping_jobs
>   expr: up{job=~"monitoring-scripts-5m|monitoring-scripts-hourly"} == 0
>   for: 13m
>   labels:
>     severity: average
>   annotations:
>   // annotations here
>
>
>


> A few days ago we wanted to introduce absence rules and we added them for
> both targets and metrics. That is all ok but with a side effect that we
> didn't consider, i.e. a metrics absent alert would of course spawn if the
> corresponding target is down.
>

That doesn't sound right, make sure your absent rules were on "up".

Brian


> Looking into it I've found this blog post
> <https://www.robustperception.io/absent-alerting-for-scraped-metrics> 
> proposing
> to use unless binary operator but I'm not sure I've understood the usage
> and its implications.
>
> Unless returns the first metric unless we have some match for the second.
> If I write something like
>
> expr: up{job="node"} == 1 unless absent(check_success{check="xxxxx",stack=
> "yyy",environment="zzz"})
>
> I'm just going to return the upness if everything is fine with the node.
> Isn't that wrong? I mean, that would result in an alert because the node is
> up, which is not what we want. Even changing that to 0 would not solve the
> problem since we would still return the absence. Maybe changing to zero and
> inverting the two? But then wouldn't I have duplicated alerts for the
> upness?
>
> Is there a way to make sure absent rules take in account targets down? Or
> should I approach the issue in some other different ways which I'm not
> considering now?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> F.
>
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